Mark Williams-Thomas making new three part crime series for Ch5.

[Mr Gray]

The MET disagrees with the BKA also, comments ?

they dont

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have access to the evidence upon which the PJ's opinion was based. Imo they were referring to the time around Jane Tanner's sighting. Afaik, the only additional evidence uncovered by The Met was that which resulted in the abandonment of Jane Tanner's belief that she saw this abductor. That allowed the Met to find a new possible time for an abduction to take place. According to the group timeline, there was a 15 minute gap between 9.45 and 10pm.

Individual recollections weren't quite so specific, especially about the 10pm check by Kate McCann;

'Erm, I was aware she'd gone, erm, at what exact point, again, it's got to be between quarter to ten and ten o'clock, somewhere in that time period'.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

The question asked, he relates that she had gone there alone to do that at 21:50.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

So you concede that there WAS potentially enough time for Madeleine to be abducted by a stranger and that therefore supporters are quite right to accept the possibility that there was the time, the space and the motive for a stranger abduction.  So why bring it up in the first place?  Either you accept there was the possibility or you don't.  Which camp do you fall in, because you seemed to be ridiculing the concept of Stranger Abduction and supporters' acceptance of the possibility IMO. 

[G-Unit]

So you concede that there WAS potentially enough time for Madeleine to be abducted by a stranger and that therefore supporters are quite right to accept the possibility that there was the time, the space and the motive for a stranger abduction.  So why bring it up in the first place?  Either you accept there was the possibility or you don't.  Which camp do you fall in, because you seemed to be ridiculing the concept of Stranger Abduction and supporters' acceptance of the possibility IMO.

I don't consider the 15 minute gap to be a definite fact, given the inability of two of the witnesses to confirm it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't consider the 15 minute gap to be a definite fact, given the inability of two of the witnesses to confirm it.

I didn't mention "definite fact" in my post, I mentioned "possibility".  Now have another go at answering.  Bet you don't!

[Brietta]

I have access to the evidence upon which the PJ's opinion was based. Imo they were referring to the time around Jane Tanner's sighting. Afaik, the only additional evidence uncovered by The Met was that which resulted in the abandonment of Jane Tanner's belief that she saw this abductor. That allowed the Met to find a new possible time for an abduction to take place. According to the group timeline, there was a 15 minute gap between 9.45 and 10pm.

Individual recollections weren't quite so specific, especially about the 10pm check by Kate McCann;

'Erm, I was aware she'd gone, erm, at what exact point, again, it's got to be between quarter to ten and ten o'clock, somewhere in that time period'.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

The question asked, he relates that she had gone there alone to do that at 21:50.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-10MAY.htm

Guess what ~ MWT like everyone else knows that already and as far as I can make out his documentary is about something entirely different.

He does tend to flit around from one theory to another on occasion any reason why you have stuck rigidly to the one which you keep promoting ad nauseam.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't consider the 15 minute gap to be a definite fact, given the inability of two of the witnesses to confirm it.

Basically, what you appear to be saying is that you don't consider it possible or even likely that there was any significant time period at all when Apartment 5 A wasn't being observed or occupied by a member of the Tapas Group between 8.30pm and 10pm, is that your position?  That actually rather than being negligent parents, the Apartment was never left untended for more than a couple of minutes?

[The General]

I don't consider the 15 minute gap to be a definite fact, given the inability of two of the witnesses to confirm it.

If the case rests on this '15 minute' window of opportunity (pun intended), then it wouldn't even see the foyer of the office of the admin assistant to the CPS officer.  It's a right old giggle this, honestly.
It harks back to the good old days of the Birmingham 6, when shonky evidence was great evidence.

[Mr Gray]

If the case rests on this '15 minute' window of opportunity (pun intended), then it wouldn't even see the foyer of the office of the admin assistant to the CPS officer.  It's a right old giggle this, honestly.
It harks back to the good old days of the Birmingham 6, when shonky evidence was great evidence.

What is a real giggle is you just dont realise just how badly you understand what is going on....but its not just you ..several other posters are in the same boat with you...

[Mr Gray]

I'd ask you to enlighten us, but you couldn't illuminate a phone box with a light bulb up your arse.

You might think you are funny but you simply dont have a proper grasp of the evidence

[The General]

You might think you are funny but you simply dont have a proper grasp of the evidence

There's a movie quote in there somewhere.

MWT mini-series, when's it airing guys, anyone know? (who doesn't have me on ignore)

[The General]

When is the MWT nonsense being aired, etc?

[The General]

Anyway, let's get this back on track - MWT, I hope this new series casts new light on the subject, etc

[Admin]

Please refrain from attacking other members, the subject can be debated without the need to lower the tone of the discussion.  Admin

[Vertigo Swirl]

Please refrain from attacking other members, the subject can be debated without the need to lower the tone of the discussion.  Admin

you mean like this?
“but you couldn't illuminate a phone box with a light bulb up your arse.”

[Eleanor]

you mean like this?
“but you couldn't illuminate a phone box with a light bulb up your arse.”

Obviously.