An Inept Investigation?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not all paedophiles actually commit sex offences either.

It's possible to be sexually attracted to children & never act on it.

I’m aware of that, and your point is?

[barrier]

The problem here is that often no one knows where they have gone.  But a lot of English ones ran off to The Algarve.

Exactly , my point being the register stops what ?

[faithlilly]

The problem here is that often no one knows where they have gone.  But a lot of English ones ran off to The Algarve.

Many, sadly, stayed in the U.K., changed their name by deed poll and disappeared.

[Wonderfulspam]

I’m aware of that, and your point is?

We shouldn't confuse paedophiles with child sex offenders, they are two different things.

[Wonderfulspam]

Exactly , my point being the register stops what ?

Well it certainly isn't a deterrent because the number of reported child sex offences has risen 57% in the past 5 years.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/about-us/news-opinion/2020/child-sexual-offences-rise/


We need tougher sentencing to deter this kind of crime, & there aren't many tougher places than Antarctica.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We shouldn't confuse paedophiles with child sex offenders, they are two different things.

And your point is?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well it certainly isn't a deterrent because the number of reported child sex offences has risen 57% in the past 5 years.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/about-us/news-opinion/2020/child-sexual-offences-rise/


We need tougher sentencing to deter this kind of crime, & there aren't many tougher places than Antarctica.

Would you send your hero “Martin Brueckner” there too?

[Anthro]

you were rude, so the nonsense was all from you.

Thank you, VS.

[Wonderfulspam]

Would you send your hero “Martin Brueckner” there too?

No, I'd let him walk free because he doesn't exist.

[Anthro]

The PJ have been involved in the new investigation begun in 2011….or didn’t you know?

The PJ have been involved since 3 May 2007. Are you suggesting they haven’t had expenses from that date forward?

[faithlilly]

The PJ have been involved since 3 May 2007. Are you suggesting they haven’t had expenses from that date forward?

I’m suggesting no such thing but that investigation was closed. I was referring specifically to the investigation that was opened by the Met in 2011, I would have hoped that that was clear. Obviously not to some.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It’s possible that the case could be solved and charges brought tomorrow, next week, next month or next year sohow is it possible to write off the investigation today as the most inept there’s ever been, especially without knowing the detail of all the work that has been undertaken to date by all police forces involved?  Personally I think this thread question is rather stupid.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Here’s an example of a case that was investigated over the course if 20 years before arrests were made.  A guilty verdict was finally returned in 2020 and justice finally done.  At what point should the investigation have been written off as inept and shelved as a cold case?  Year 2?  Year 10?  Year 14? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claremont_serial_killings#Trial

[Eleanor]

I'm feeling a bit laid back tonight for some inexplicable reason, probably due to brief insanity.  But I do so wish that we could cut out the nastiness when The McCanns have never even been so much as arrested.
Let alone to each other.

I still can't get my head around Brueckner because my brain is telling me nothing, so I have no desire to say anything unpleasant about him beyond what we already know he has been convicted of.

As a Moderator who rarely does anything these days I am terrified of what I might have to do should something actually blow, even if it is only The ECHR.  You see, you can all kick off in any way that you like, but I have to think about it when I no longer know what is acceptable.

The Portuguese Investigation was inept.  Not much doubt about that. But can we even blame them or support them?

Amaral is a different story.  But only one man in this Case. And quite possibly of an era that most of us know nothing about.  He was born and raised in the years of Salazar when Crime was so easily dealt with.  Beat up the prime suspect and get a confession.  Problem solved and keep the population under control.

And most of the Senior Judges are from the same era and mind set.  We could all do well to look at the fairly recent history of Portugal.  And it is all rather sad, but only if you aren't on the wrong end of it.  If you are on the wrong end of it then it is dire.

I was in Portugal during both Revolutions but all I saw was a bunch of idiots jumping out of the undergrowth with guns who didn't have much idea of what they were trying to do and who didn't frighten me at all.  But then I am not easily frightened.  Perhaps I should have been.

But you see, this was still the mind set in 2007.  Portugal still hadn't moved on.  And I am not frightfully sure that it has to this day.  No one wants to rock the boat you see.  Tourism and all that crap.  Any old rubbish will do.  And Praia da Luz isn't exactly the creme de la creme.  But large areas of The Algarve are still very poor for the peasants who live there.  The peasants that still have no voice.

As for the current hierarchy of The PJ.  They are a disgrace.  They knew what was going on and did absolutely nothing and still to this day do nothing.

I am appalled by the fact that such a beautiful country should have been so abused.

[Eleanor]

If only I knew what you Liked about my Comment, Davel.  Probably something awfully innocuous somewhere in the middle which wasn't much to do with anything I had to say.

There I go again.  Half as daft and twice as stupid, but always and only in my own opinion.  I think that I am stupid.

So many of us express our selves badly and perhaps don't really mean what we say.  Even Davel with his dreadful Text Thingy that can't spell.

Grammar?  Forget it.  Although my grammar is excellent.  But I can't half split an infinitive even when I know that I am doing it.  Somehow the vernacular comes more easily, but doesn't always express what one means.

I just want you all to think about what you say and to try to be a little less unkind, including to that dreadful Amaral character who probably isn't actually responsible for what he says.  Who knows what you would do if you have never been really poor?

Me, I have been cash short for all of my life so this doesn't really apply to me.  But then I am a one off.  I don't pass the buck.  I am just who I am and if I can't hack it then the fault is mine.

I am pretty nearly damned sure that I would like every one of you if we ever met.  Your opinions wouldn't matter to me because they actually don't matter.

I will go on defending The McCanns and hoping that Madeleine is still alive.  But sadly even that doesn't matter any more.

So if we could try to be kind then I would be grateful.