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Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #180 on: October 14, 2021, 11:00:08 AM »
We know that according to the PJ the main evidence against the mccanns was the dog alerts.. We therefore know as a fact that they misinterpreted the evidence

We therefore know as a fact that they misinterpreted the evidence


But did they - its not as if they found nothing or anything anywhere else imo

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2021, 11:02:32 AM »
We know that according to the PJ the main evidence against the mccanns was the dog alerts.. We therefore know as a fact that they misinterpreted the evidence

There's nothing to stop the police or anyone else from interpreting uncorroberated evidence how they wish. Some people, for example, interpret an alleged open window and shutters as a sign that a stranger abduction occured.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2021, 11:04:00 AM »

We therefore know as a fact that they misinterpreted the evidence


But did they - its not as if they found nothing or anything anywhere else imo

Yes they did... It's s fact.  Amaral claimed the alerts confirmed a cadaver had been in 5a... They didn't confirm thst at all. 

They suggested a cadaver MAY have been in 5a

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2021, 11:06:16 AM »
There's nothing to stop the police or anyone else from interpreting uncorroberated evidence how they wish. Some people, for example, interpret an alleged open window and shutters as a sign that a stranger abduction occured.
the window is evidence that supports third party involvement... That's a fact

Offline jassi

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2021, 11:14:37 AM »
As the identity of the window opener is unknown, how can the event of the window being opened point in any direction, other than someone exercising their opinion ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #185 on: October 14, 2021, 12:57:46 PM »
Yes they did... It's s fact.  Amaral claimed the alerts confirmed a cadaver had been in 5a... They didn't confirm thst at all. 

They suggested a cadaver MAY have been in 5a

They suggested a cadaver MAY have been in 5a


Exactly - an seeing no one else it seems died in the apartment.

Cadaver [a dead body] could have been in 5a ....not there was no cadaver.


Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #186 on: October 14, 2021, 12:58:52 PM »
It was, sent to the prtuguese govt for their obssevations in Jan.. It has to go back and forth a few times and each exchange takes about three months.  The wheels are in motion


Think its what most people think....seems what wolt  says - is water of a ducks back


Gonçalo Amaral: Today I learned that the German prosecutor has stated, if indeed he has affirmed it, that we performed inefficiently and that they (Germans) can do in a weeks time the work that we, the Portuguese police, have done in six months of investigation. Of what he accuses us, I can only say, for my part not as in charge of the police, but for my part as a citizen, as the coordinator of the Judiciary Police at that time, as a the person that was in charge of the men and women that gave everything to find this child and to know what happened to her, we can only say to that gentleman, to the prosecutor: Get over yourself! (i.e. know your place) and be ware that here in Portugal we are very aware of what is being said. Donkey's voices don't reach the heavens (i.e. similar to the British idiomatic expression "like water off a duck's back"), not even his.

 https://sicnoticias.pt/especiais/caso-maddie---10-anos/2021-10-13-Goncalo-Amaral-lanca-novo-livro-sobre-Maddie-927f1efa


Offline Eleanor

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #187 on: October 14, 2021, 12:59:20 PM »
Something or someone was passed through that window in my opinion.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #188 on: October 14, 2021, 01:34:40 PM »
the window is evidence that supports third party involvement... That's a fact

The window is uncorroberated evidence, just as the cadaver dog alerts are. The significance is opinion in both examples.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #189 on: October 14, 2021, 01:43:47 PM »
The window is uncorroberated evidence, just as the cadaver dog alerts are. The significance is opinion in both examples.

So you accept it's evidence.. As it is.

How much value is, attached to the evidence depends on other factors

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #190 on: October 14, 2021, 02:06:22 PM »
So you accept it's evidence.. As it is.

How much value is, attached to the evidence depends on other factors

Like who else saw it. We all saw the cadaver dog alerting.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #191 on: October 14, 2021, 02:20:35 PM »
Like who else saw it. We all saw the cadaver dog alerting.

Lol.... And Grime explained it's significance

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #192 on: October 14, 2021, 02:22:24 PM »

We therefore know as a fact that they misinterpreted the evidence


But did they - its not as if they found nothing or anything anywhere else imo

Yes 100%...there, was no confirmation of a cadaver in 5a..
It's a fact they misunderstood thr evidence... It's telling you don't realise that

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #193 on: October 14, 2021, 02:23:35 PM »

They suggested a cadaver MAY have been in 5a


Exactly - an seeing no one else it seems died in the apartment.

Cadaver [a dead body] could have been in 5a ....not there was no cadaver.

Amaral claimed a cadaver was confirmed... He should realise he, was wrong

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie Basta de Mentiras
« Reply #194 on: October 14, 2021, 02:24:57 PM »

Think its what most people think....seems what wolt  says - is water of a ducks back


Gonçalo Amaral: Today I learned that the German prosecutor has stated, if indeed he has affirmed it, that we performed inefficiently and that they (Germans) can do in a weeks time the work that we, the Portuguese police, have done in six months of investigation. Of what he accuses us, I can only say, for my part not as in charge of the police, but for my part as a citizen, as the coordinator of the Judiciary Police at that time, as a the person that was in charge of the men and women that gave everything to find this child and to know what happened to her, we can only say to that gentleman, to the prosecutor: Get over yourself! (i.e. know your place) and be ware that here in Portugal we are very aware of what is being said. Donkey's voices don't reach the heavens (i.e. similar to the British idiomatic expression "like water off a duck's back"), not even his.

 https://sicnoticias.pt/especiais/caso-maddie---10-anos/2021-10-13-Goncalo-Amaral-lanca-novo-livro-sobre-Maddie-927f1efa

Amaral still doesn't understand the evidence