Maddie Basta de Mentiras

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes with one sample because it contained DNA from at least three people. Dr Purlin has offered to make sense of the data. He believes he can separate out the three (or more) contributors. I would hope anyone with an interest in this case would like to see that happen.

So do you believe Eddie was always alerting to blood and not cadaverine?

Who knows?  It could have been blood, it could have been cadaverine, it could have been both, it could have been neither.  If it was blood it could have been Madeleine's or it could have been someone else's.  If it was cadaverine it could have been Madeleine's or it could have had another source entirely, it could have been pig, it could have been planted by a Pig, loads of possibilities...

[Vertigo Swirl]

How much blood is required for a dog to alert to ?

Obviously a significant amount or they'd have alerted in every apartment IMO.  Unless the only apartment anyone ever cut themselves shaving or had a nosebleed in was Apartment 5a.

[Mr Gray]

Peer reviewed forensic science research (previously linked on this forum) reports that cadaver dogs have an efficacy of detecting cadaver odour of at least 92%. The dogs are trained to alert to cadaverine and human blood. I believe it is reasonable to suggest that is what they were alerting to in the apartment. Furthermore we know that samples were collected where the dogs alerted.

The British FSS stated the results were "inconclusive" as to whether the DNA collected from areas where the dogs alerted could be attributed to Madeleine McCann.

I don't think it's reasonable at all.  Even grime doesn't say what you propose.

Grime obviously directs the dogs and with all things McCann he directed noticibly more.

Eddie reacted to a ciconut she'll that grime was told was a childs skull.  To check the accuracy of the dog the cocoonut was moved to a different location.. And. Once again Eddie alerted to the coconut

[Eleanor]

Peer reviewed forensic science research (previously linked on this forum) reports that cadaver dogs have an efficacy of detecting cadaver odour of at least 92%. The dogs are trained to alert to cadaverine and human blood. I believe it is reasonable to suggest that is what they were alerting to in the apartment. Furthermore we know that samples were collected where the dogs alerted.

The British FSS stated the results were "inconclusive" as to whether the DNA collected from areas where the dogs alerted could be attributed to Madeleine McCann.

But Eddie wasn't a primarily trained Cadaver Dog.  So God knows what he was alerting to.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I don't think it's reasonable at all.  Even grime doesn't say what you propose.

Grime obviously directs the dogs and with all things McCann he directed noticibly more.

Eddie reacted to a ciconut she'll that grime was told was a childs skull.  To check the accuracy of the dog the cocoonut was moved to a different location.. And. Once again Eddie alerted to the coconut

Are you aware of the claims that the Oxford lab reported on the presence of collagen in that famous sample JAR/6? There is, of course, no collagen in coconut. I can not say if these reports are correct. I certainly would not be surprised if there were the remains of children at HDLG. Terrible abuse took place there, in my opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Are you aware of the claims that the Oxford lab reported on the presence of collagen in that famous sample JAR/6? There is, of course, no collagen in coconut. I can not say if these reports are correct. I certainly would not be surprised if there were the remains of children at HDLG. Terrible abuse took place there, in my opinion.

I'm aware of that report and it's been discussed many times and shown to be bogus... You are believing too much sceptic propaganda

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I'm aware of that report and it's been discussed many times and shown to be bogus... You are believing too much sceptic propaganda

Have you got a link to an academic or scientific report that shows the collagen claim is bogus?

[jassi]

Call me a conspiracist if you like, but I have observed on numerous occasions that when government bodies and the like are involved,  'things' like missing  reports, non-functioning cameras, etc occur that just happen to be remarkably politically convenient at the time.

[Mr Gray]

Have you got a link to an academic or scientific report that shows the collagen claim is bogus?

The claim was as far as I know made up.. Kew Gardens I understand identified it ss wood.. Probably coconut.

Where does the claim Re collagen come from.. What's it's source

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

The claim was as far as I know made up.. Kew Gardens I understand identified it ss wood.. Probably coconut.

Where does the claim Re collagen come from.. What's it's source

Do you have a link for that information.

The presence of collagen (1.6%) reportedly was confirmed in an email from Ms. Brock in the lab (I believe the lab was in Sheffield University, but I may be wrong) to her Forensic Manager, Miss Vicky Coupland. It reportedly states; "Hi Vicky. Here are the details of the Jersey skull as discussed on the phone earlier. As I said, the chemistry of this bone is extremely unusual – nothing I am familiar with.

During the first acid washes we often get a lot of fizzing as the mineral dissolves. The Jersey skull didn’t fizz at all, which suggested that preservation was poor, and which led me to test the nitrogen content of the bone.

The Jersey skull had 0.60 nitrogen, which suggested that it contained virtually no collagen. Once we had this result, Tom phoned you and told you it would be unlikely that we could date the sample, but that we would continue with the pre-treatment just in case.

Very surprisingly, the sample yielded 1.6% collagen (our cut off for dating is 1%).

As there is no nitrogen it cannot contain collagen unless it is highly degraded. The chances are it is highly contaminated and any date we get for it might not be accurate. I have e-mailed the director and asked if we should proceed with a date."

[Mr Gray]

Do you have a link for that information.

The presence of collagen (1.6%) reportedly was confirmed in an email from Ms. Brock in the lab (I believe the lab was in Sheffield University, but I may be wrong) to her Forensic Manager, Miss Vicky Coupland. It reportedly states; "Hi Vicky. Here are the details of the Jersey skull as discussed on the phone earlier. As I said, the chemistry of this bone is extremely unusual – nothing I am familiar with.

During the first acid washes we often get a lot of fizzing as the mineral dissolves. The Jersey skull didn’t fizz at all, which suggested that preservation was poor, and which led me to test the nitrogen content of the bone.

The Jersey skull had 0.60 nitrogen, which suggested that it contained virtually no collagen. Once we had this result, Tom phoned you and told you it would be unlikely that we could date the sample, but that we would continue with the pre-treatment just in case.

Very surprisingly, the sample yielded 1.6% collagen (our cut off for dating is 1%).

As there is no nitrogen it cannot contain collagen unless it is highly degraded. The chances are it is highly contaminated and any date we get for it might not be accurate. I have e-mailed the director and asked if we should proceed with a date."

Again.. Where is, this from.. Afaiac it's, made up.. Where is, the, source for this

[Vertigo Swirl]

Odd that the Portuguese translator has been busy translating new newspaper articles about the Portuguese/German investigation into Brueckner but hasn’t yet managed to cough up a few of the more revealing / interesting  paragraphs from Amaral’s latest magnum opus.  I wonder why not…?  Perhaps there aren’t any…?

[Brietta]

Odd that the Portuguese translator has been busy translating new newspaper articles about the Portuguese/German investigation into Brueckner but hasn’t yet managed to cough up a few of the more revealing / interesting  paragraphs from Amaral’s latest magnum opus.  I wonder why not…?  Perhaps there aren’t any…?

Is it in the Best Sellers list yet?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is it in the Best Sellers list yet?

I don’t know.  Probably though the excitement about it seems to have waned very rapidly.

[Uncle Jr]

It's clearly backtracking because in his first book he claimed it was confirmed Maddie died in the apartment... He's not claiming that now

Not quite a volte face, but a very clear change of direction. He's released the book now to garner as many sales as possible prior to CB being charged in the next 6-8 weeks. He's probably received an advance from the publisher, so at least he gets paid prior to the public shaming that is about to come.
In my opinion.