Author Topic: The known facts and the speculations featuring Brueckner, the prime suspect  (Read 158128 times)

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Offline Wonderfulspam

To answer my own question, perhaps it's because there's just too many sensible, thoughtful, logical posts like this one over on Websleuths - I've already posted it once before and it was resolutely ignored by the HCK/BKA sceptics on this forum.  It would be good to hear their replies to these questions but something tells me not to hold my breath...


Why would the BKA involve themselves in this hot potato of a case, if they had no real evidence other than what we've been told about so far?

Because they were investigating Brueckner for other offences.


Why put themselves in the spotlight of a media frenzy and risk ridicule and libel suits by publicly proclaiming CB's guilt if they had nothing of any real substance to back it up?

They sent in an undercover to try & get a confession, I imagine that's standard practice when you already have solid evidence & as if Brueckner can really win a libel case


Why would they spend over 4 years investigating this lead if all they have got is hearsay and a phone ping which doesn't even place the phone at the crime scene or during the crime window?


Because they 'think' they have their man, when all they have is hearsay & phone ping...


Why would they spend all this money and waste their limited resources on a case where the victim isn't German, the crime took place in another country and they have no responsibility to investigate it?

How much money & man power are they actually using? I'd like full disclosure including a breakdown of total man hours worked & expenditure please.  The old granny rape victim wasn't German, or in Germany, so why did they investigate that?


Why have they taken this unprecedented approach of publicly accusing someone of murder without charging them, in a country where privacy laws are extremely strict and further...

Because they have only flimsy circumstantial & their best hope is to force a confession, as evidenced by their previous attempt to force a confession.


...Why would that approach have been sanctioned at a higher level if there wasn't already strong indicative evidence to warrant such a bold action?

They were desperate enough to try a prison snitch, that didn't work so they had to try knocking up a gear.

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Offline Wonderfulspam

The very simple answer is two words... Glory Hunters.

The truth is that the Germans have nothing. No evidence of anything really connecting Bruckner with Madeleine McCann. Even Madeleine's parents don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

They thought that someone would come out of the ether and finger Bruckner with damning evidence but it never happened. Now they are stuck with a story which will never be proven one way or the other.

I wonder why that might be.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

I can only congratulate their moderators who ensure that discussions are polite.
Ever thought of signing up there yourself?  Perhaps they could do with someone with you perspective and insight….
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

The very simple answer is two words... Glory Hunters.

The truth is that the Germans have nothing. No evidence of anything really connecting Bruckner with Madeleine McCann. Even Madeleine's parents don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

They thought that someone would come out of the ether and finger Bruckner with damning evidence but it never happened. Now they are stuck with a story which will never be proven one way or the other.
The real truth is - you haven’t a scooby what the Germans actually have and are writing from a position of ignorance.  What makes you “know” the Germans haven’t held back evidence that they tell us would convince us they were correct in their deductions?  Gut feel is it?  Or perhaps your cousin’s girlfriend’s hairdresser has a German uncle in the BKA?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

The real truth is - you haven’t a scooby what the Germans actually have and are writing from a position of ignorance.  What makes you “know” the Germans haven’t held back evidence that they tell us would convince us they were correct in their deductions? Gut feel is it?  Or perhaps your cousin’s girlfriend’s hairdresser has a German uncle in the BKA?

So now we're just imagining evidence when we can't be certain it actually exists.

Par for the course in this case.
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Offline Mr Gray

The very simple answer is two words... Glory Hunters.

The truth is that the Germans have nothing. No evidence of anything really connecting Bruckner with Madeleine McCann. Even Madeleine's parents don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

They thought that someone would come out of the ether and finger Bruckner with damning evidence but it never happened. Now they are stuck with a story which will never be proven one way or the other.


Total junk

Offline G-Unit


Total junk

Not really. Not everyone is prepared to believe everything the Germans tell us.

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Not really. Not everyone is prepared to believe everything the Germans tell us.

Yes, even Maddie's parents.

Here is the most convincing abductor yet, & they're not convinced.

Maybe because they already know she was never abducted in the first place.
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Offline barrier

The very simple answer is two words... Glory Hunters.

The truth is that the Germans have nothing. No evidence of anything really connecting Bruckner with Madeleine McCann. Even Madeleine's parents don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.

They thought that someone would come out of the ether and finger Bruckner with damning evidence but it never happened. Now they are stuck with a story which will never be proven one way or the other.

The legend is writ.
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Offline barrier

My impression of Websleuths is that there are native German contributors posting regularly who can give us facts as well as informed opinion.

I think you will end up finding in the fulness of time that Wolters is anything but "out of his depth".

They are digging as much dirt on CB as possible, which in turn still does not a murderer make  the damning evidence which is missing is beyond them and the BKA imo.
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Offline Mr Gray

They are digging as much dirt on CB as possible, which in turn still does not a murderer make  the damning evidence which is missing is beyond them and the BKA imo.

Imo... The BKK think they may be able to find the body.. They are lookung for it.. I think there is no doubt about that

Offline barrier

Imo... The BKK think they may be able to find the body.. They are looking for it.. I think there is no doubt about that


Really ! where to ?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Imo... The BKK think they may be able to find the body.. They are lookung for it.. I think there is no doubt about that

Well, he could have dumped it in Portugal, or anywhere on route between Portugal & Germany really, so that narrows things down a bit.
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Offline G-Unit

Imo... The BKK think they may be able to find the body.. They are lookung for it.. I think there is no doubt about that

Do you mean the BKA? They can't search in Portugal, you know, which is the most likely location. How do you think they can find something which they can't look for?

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Offline jassi

They are digging as much dirt on CB as possible, which in turn still does not a murderer make  the damning evidence which is missing is beyond them and the BKA imo.

I've been looking at Websleuths on and off for the last week or so and agree with your comment about digging dirt, mainly on Brueckner.

I find most of their posts to be marginally interesting, but of little relevance.
For example the latest page is mostly about the possible reasons for  the non-appearance of MWT's documentary and before that it was about whether Wolters had received any media training.

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future