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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2022, 11:11:24 AM »
The presumption of innocence does not trump any allegations

Well he isn't being held on remand.

You seem to think if a prosecutor says so, then it's true.

Quite a bizarre position really but nevermind, I shouldn't really expect any different from people who are certain Maddie wad abducted just because the McCanns said so.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2022, 11:15:37 AM »
Wolters says he can prove Maddie was abducted and murdered...you can choose not to believe  him but you vsnt state as s fact he doesn't have proof

Err yes I can.

It's called Hitchens law, that which is claimed without presentation of evidence can equally be dismissed without evidence.

If Wolters can say what he likes then so can I.

And if Mods here state as fact Maddie was abducted I have equal right to state that she wasn't.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2022, 12:02:17 PM »
Well he isn't being held on remand.

You seem to think if a prosecutor says so, then it's true.

Quite a bizarre position really but nevermind, I shouldn't really expect any different from people who are certain Maddie wad abducted just because the McCanns said so.

He doesn't have to be held On Remand.  He's banged up In Solitary.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2022, 12:10:22 PM »
He doesn't have to be held On Remand.  He's banged up In Solitary.

He still must be presumed innocent though, unless/until Wolters can prove otherwise, & Brueckner is supremely confident that wont be happening any time.

Which is quite surprising, considering he's supposed to have GoPro'd Madeleine's abduction & murder, doesn't have an alibi & knows full well Wolters has all the incriminating footage, along with all the other evidence against him.

It's interesting, he's either the most audacious one-off abductor/murderer I've ever heard about, or maybe he just didn't do it.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #154 on: July 21, 2022, 12:23:38 PM »
He still must be presumed innocent though, unless/until Wolters can prove otherwise, & Brueckner is supremely confident that wont be happening any time.

Which is quite surprising, considering he's supposed to have GoPro'd Madeleine's abduction & murder, doesn't have an alibi & knows full well Wolters has all the incriminating footage, along with all the other evidence against him.

It's interesting, he's either the most audacious one-off abductor/murderer I've ever heard about, or maybe he just didn't do it.

I have never said that Brueckner Did It.  I just hope he never gets out.  But someone will be hot on his tail if he ever does.  He will never roam Europe unchecked again.

Offline jassi

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #155 on: July 21, 2022, 01:02:23 PM »
I have never said that Brueckner Did It.  I just hope he never gets out. But someone will be hot on his tail if he ever does.  He will never roam Europe unchecked again.

I doubt it. Police will have better things to do than keep long-term tabs on him.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #156 on: July 21, 2022, 01:19:43 PM »
I doubt it. Police will have better things to do than keep long-term tabs on him.

If his partial finger print really is on a knife at Hazel Behans, as Jon Clarke claims (although, you can understand why one might be a little sceptical about this, given that it comes from Jon Clarke), &/or, the birthmark matches, then he probably won't be out for another 7 years, plus a year or 2 for the playground exposures. I don't recall Hazel Behan mentioning that he filmed her ordeal though, but I stand to be corrected on that, if anyone knows any different.

So that's alright, 9 years gives Wolters plenty of time to find more definitive evidence Brueckner murdered Maddie than he currently has, which is pretty much nothing.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #157 on: July 21, 2022, 01:20:34 PM »
I doubt it. Police will have better things to do than keep long-term tabs on him.

Oh well.  Never mind.  More children sexually abused and more old women violently raped.

No wonder Wolters wants to keep him locked up.

Offline sadie

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #158 on: July 21, 2022, 01:33:42 PM »
.....and no one can prove, or present any tangible evidence that Maddie was actually abducted that night, by Brueckner or anyone else, so, Brueckner wins by default.

There was enough evidence to satisfy 3 National Police Forces that there was an abduction.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #159 on: July 21, 2022, 01:36:21 PM »
There was enough evidence to satisfy 3 National Police Forces that there was an abduction.

They just can't prove it actually happened, that's all, no biggie.
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Offline sadie

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #160 on: July 21, 2022, 01:42:31 PM »
They just can't prove it actually happened, that's all, no biggie.

Maybe they can.   How do you know otherwise?

SY might know where Madeleine actually is at this moment.   They are not going to tell you and will wait until the right time to move

Offline Mr Gray

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #161 on: July 21, 2022, 01:48:53 PM »
Err yes I can.

It's called Hitchens law, that which is claimed without presentation of evidence can equally be dismissed without evidence.

If Wolters can say what he likes then so can I.

And if Mods here state as fact Maddie was abducted I have equal right to state that she wasn't.

You can say what you like... It's of no consequence.
There's another rule of evidence.. It's called expert opinion.. It has value.. Yours doesnt

Offline Eleanor

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #162 on: July 21, 2022, 01:49:40 PM »
Maybe they can.   How do you know otherwise?

SY might know where Madeleine actually is at this moment.   They are not going to tell you and will wait until the right time to move

This is always a possibility.

But they have proved that Brueckner sexually abused young children and violently raped a 72 year old woman.  This is vile.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #163 on: July 21, 2022, 01:58:15 PM »
Maybe they can.   How do you know otherwise?

SY might know where Madeleine actually is at this moment.   They are not going to tell you and will wait until the right time to move

Blimey, you think SY know Maddie is alive while Wolters is certain she's Dead?
Bit of a problem with their lines of communication if so.
This is what 14 million buys is It?
A disjointed & confused line of enquiry. Well, maybe I suppose, but it sounds rather absurd to me.
Could the 3 forces really be that incompetent?
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Offline jassi

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #164 on: July 21, 2022, 02:06:30 PM »
Blimey, you think SY know Maddie is alive while Wolters is certain she's Dead?
Bit of a problem with their lines of communication if so.
This is what 14 million buys is It?
A disjointed & confused line of enquiry. Well, maybe I suppose, but it sounds rather absurd to me.
Could the 3 forces really be that incompetent?

We've had this crap before -
 People know where Madeleine is and are watching. Just waiting until she's old enough to identify herself on Facebook - just waiting until she's 16 -just waiting until she's 18 etc.
Well she  an  adult now so what's stopping these people acting ?

IMO
The reason is because she's not out there, or at least  not alive.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future