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Offline misty

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #285 on: July 23, 2022, 07:25:48 PM »
I think a lot of Portuguese people have been given food for thought over the past couple of years.

What I found astonishing from Misty's post is that such a convicted perpetrator can elect in which jurisdiction to be tried for further crimes.

Mind you were I him, I would give serious thought to the fact that the protective custody he has in Germany might well ensure he lives to see a trial date.
I think there may well be vested interests in Portugal which have their own agenda on that one.

That's a Catch22 for CB imo. He does have a right to a fair trial under whichever jurisdiction which offers the more lenient sentence for this particular crime.
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Offline sadie

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #286 on: July 24, 2022, 12:58:07 AM »
I think a lot of Portuguese people have been given food for thought over the past couple of years.

What I found astonishing from Misty's post is that such a convicted perpetrator can elect in which jurisdiction to be tried for further crimes.

Mind you were I him, I would give serious thought to the fact that the protective custody he has in Germany might well ensure he lives to see a trial date.
I think there may well be vested interests in Portugal which have their own agenda on that one.


Exactly my thoughts, Brie.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #287 on: July 24, 2022, 08:24:48 AM »
PJ must have enough evidence to both make CB an arguido and convince the AttGen to extend the statute of limitations. The fact BKA have other evidence which they won't share with PJ at present is muddying the waters,

His criminal profile, he lived in Luz, he told his mates he murdered Maddie & they can't pin down exactly where he was on the night of May 3rd.

That would be enough.

eta:..and the photo of Maddie, mustn't forget that.
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Offline barrier

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #288 on: July 24, 2022, 09:22:50 AM »
That's a Catch22 for CB imo. He does have a right to a fair trial under whichever jurisdiction which offers the more lenient sentence for this particular crime.

He's got to be questioned first let alone charged, talking about getting ahead of oneself.
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Offline Rossb

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #289 on: July 24, 2022, 09:40:10 AM »
He's got to be questioned first let alone charged, talking about getting ahead of oneself.

He did get questioned in Germany recently, he rrplied no comment. Its a game of chess.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #290 on: July 24, 2022, 09:41:21 AM »
He did get questioned in Germany recently, he replied no comment. Its a game of chess.

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Offline Rossb

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #291 on: July 24, 2022, 09:55:13 AM »
Brueckner is winning.

Do you think he is guilty because he was advised no comment by his solicitor just like the mccanns who on 2 occasions spoke as witness's?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #292 on: July 24, 2022, 10:01:52 AM »
Do you think he is guilty because he was advised no comment by his solicitor just like the mccanns who on 2 occasions spoke as witness's?

No, I'm certain he's not guilty because Maddie wasn't abducted in the first place.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #293 on: July 24, 2022, 10:16:22 AM »
If the case was out of the hands of the Portuguese then there would have been no legal requirement for them to have made CB an arguido at a minute before midnight. According to Portuguese law, the Statute of Limitations can only be extended if there is a reasonable prospect of the arguido being charged.
CB was charged in Germany, as a German citizen, for crimes he had committed in Portugal because a)he'd never been charged in Portugal in respect of any of those crimes & b)the Statute of Limitations in Portugal for those crimes had passed by the time he'd been identified as the probable offender.
Where Madeleine's case is concerned, he's the suspect/accused in 2 parallel investigations but hasn't yet been charged by either authority. Both authorities will need to apply to Italy for an EAW if they wish to bring charges in Madeleine#s case, since Italy is the last place he was a free man before his incarceration in Germany (for crimes in Germany). IMO this is how the "dirty tricks brigade" will attempt to undermine the BKA investigation and unfortunately I foresee a situation in which it may ultimately result in ECJ deciding which country CB should be tried in, notwithstanding Portugal's right to try him in absentia. CB also has the right to consent to be charged in Portugal rather than Germany. It's important to remember an EAW cannot be authorised in a case where a person has already been tried in another country for the same crime.

Anyone for whom an EAW is issued can consent, which makes it unnecessary for the country where they are situated to make the decision whether to hand them over or not. Whether it's as simple as CB agreeing to be surrendered to the Portuguese authorities rather than the German ones we don't know.
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Offline Rossb

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #294 on: July 24, 2022, 11:20:29 AM »
No, I'm certain he's not guilty because Maddie wasn't abducted in the first place.

Yeah thats fine, but bruckner was made an arguido just like the mccanns were and had every right not to answer questions as btuckner, but it gets brought up why would she not answer the questions. In bruckners case its fairly obvious that the mccanns have spoken to the pj, bruckner has not. If its about clearing your name its all he has to do and has no solid wintess. The only time he will talk is when he is charged until them he can play  agame of chess.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #295 on: July 24, 2022, 11:29:09 AM »
Yeah thats fine, but bruckner was made an arguido just like the mccanns were and had every right not to answer questions as btuckner, but it gets brought up why would she not answer the questions. In bruckners case its fairly obvious that the mccanns have spoken to the pj, bruckner has not. If its about clearing your name its all he has to do and has no solid wintess. The only time he will talk is when he is charged until them he can play  agame of chess.

Is it?

When did that happen?

I mean, apart from in 2007, have they spoken to them since, been interviewed again, when was that?

...and while we're at it, when were they interviewed by the BKA & the MET?
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Offline jassi

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #297 on: July 24, 2022, 11:42:22 AM »
Something wrong with that link ? Won't open for me.
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Offline jassi

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #298 on: July 24, 2022, 11:46:16 AM »
Is it?

When did that happen?

I mean, apart from in 2007, have they spoken to them since, been interviewed again, when was that?

...and while we're at it, when were they interviewed by the BKA & the MET?

I doubt that has ever happened.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Rossb

Re: It has taken fifteen years ~ is Madeleine's case close to being solved?
« Reply #299 on: July 24, 2022, 11:49:46 AM »
Something wrong with that link ? Won't open for me.

Google search bruckner questioned daily mirror, will show then.