Perceptions of Madeleine's Abduction

[Vertigo Swirl]

Don't forget Myster  (Ret Sym).   He is The Generals father IMO'

Myster is an absolute wizard at anything electronic  and loads of other things too.   Oxford educated..   
The General is a whiz kid too IMO .  The self proclaimed youngest poster on  forum and an impressively clever young man.   Just like his father.


Oh, dear !     I keep saying too much.   Now I must wait for my punishment

Myster is not a sceptic as far as I’m aware….

[barrier]

@Sadie, at least you're not using the notion that they used the window.

[sadie]

Myster is not a sceptic as far as I’m aware….

Orly?

I know who he is.   He loves acting and is immensly clever..

[Wonderfulspam]

I don’t know why the troll is so hung up on the idea that the abductor (“what abductor?”) was in the building at the same time as Gerry.  I supoose it’s a good way of heaping ridicule onto the abduction theory but as far as I know, no police force has claimed that this happened.

Because that is the McCanns 'evidence'.

Gerry entered at 9, & the door had strangely moved, https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=748

and no police force is able to present any evidence an abduction actually occurred.

When you factor my first point in, it's very easy to see why.

[sadie]

@Sadie, at least you're not using the notion that they used the window.

I always said that it couldn't be done with such a narrow window, but having seen CB  and read about him and his scaling buildings to get in via windows, I must admit I have modified my views a little.  He is like a circus act by the sounds of it.  He is so skinny and obviously used to getting thru' small spaces, I wonder now..

Please do not take it that I am accusing CB.   I am not but am open to the fact that if anyone could, he could.   

Personally I believe that access was via the front door using a key and quite possibly never touching the door with the hands but using the key to open and close it (push / pull) as well a unlock it.

Because of that, I am not able to define exactly how the perp entered, but I definitely believe it was via the fronmt door.  Deeply recessed, out of sight and very dark in there.  I seem to remember that the porch light was broken.  Please correct me if I am wrong on that.


I certainly believe that Madeleine was not passed through the window, too awkward, no footspace for the lifter..  She went out with the perp via the front door IMO and was passed to Tannerman at that stage.  CB could have been the enterer and lifter, but we dont know for certain.

When lifted, her head would have been on the lifters right arm.  With her head being on the left arm of Tannerman, this indicates that she had been passed by someone to Tannerman.


I dont know why we keep on about Tannerman not looking like, or alternatively looking like CB, cos it appears that she was passed to a second person, who likely was not CB.

I think that the front door was used both for entrance and departure.

[sadie]

Myster is not a sceptic as far as I’m aware….

I know who he is.  He knows who I am.  All about me.

He is a very clever man.  Oxford graduate.  Quite a wizard.

He is a sceptic, as is his son The General, who is also a whiz kid.   Self proclaimed as the youngest poster on forum



I wonder if this post will stand.  My last attempt was whooshed.

I wonder why?   Is the truth not allowed to stand?

[Myster]

Don't forget Myster  (Ret Sym).   He is The Generals father IMO'

Myster is an absolute wizard at anything electronic  and loads of other things too.   Oxford educated..   
The General is a whiz kid too IMO .  The self proclaimed youngest poster on  forum and an impressively clever young man.   Just like his father.


Oh, dear !     I keep saying too much.   Now I must wait for my punishment

Oxford educated?... Where did that come from?    The longest time I spent in Oxford was on a week's study of new student housing there, aeons ago - including the Florey Building and the Keble College extension by "Big Jim" Stirling and the ABK practice.  Luvverly buildings!

As for being der General's daddy - his predilection for writing obfuscatory gobbledygook wasn't inherited from me.

And from the get-go (oops) in 2007, I've always believed that MBM was abducted by a stranger, and nothing to do with mischief hatched by her parents.  You just "know".

So no reason for me to be on that list, sorry dearest!

[Myster]

Myster is not a sceptic as far as I’m aware….

[sadie]

Oxford educated?... Where did that come from?    The longest time I spent in Oxford was on a week's study of new student housing there, aeons ago - including the Florey Building and the Keble College extension by "Big Jim" Stirling and the ABK practice.  Luvverly buildings!

As for being der General's daddy - his predilection for writing obfuscatory gobbledygook wasn't inherited from me.

And from the get-go (oops) in 2007, I've always believed that MBM was abducted by a stranger, and nothing to do with mischief hatched by her parents.  You just "know".

So no reason for me to be on that list, sorry dearest!

You were at Oxford.  Mathematics.  Exceptionally clever bloke.  Quite a wizard in fact.

[Wonderfulspam]

Because that is the McCanns 'evidence'.

Gerry entered at 9, & the door had strangely moved, https://youtu.be/OZ8jmdWlB8Y?t=748

and no police force is able to present any evidence an abduction actually occurred.

When you factor my first point in, it's very easy to see why.

But we just skip this inconvenient detail now, brush it out of history, then 'the abduction' becomes a bit easier to explain.

[Myster]

You were at Oxford.  Mathematics.  Exceptionally clever bloke.  Quite a wizard in fact.

Which psychic told you that, sadie?... because he or she are mistaken.  My proficiency in higher maths was and still is extremely poor.

[Admin]

I know who he is.  He knows who I am.  All about me.

He is a very clever man.  Oxford graduate.  Quite a wizard.

He is a sceptic, as is his son The General, who is also a whiz kid.   Self proclaimed as the youngest poster on forum



I wonder if this post will stand.  My last attempt was whooshed.

I wonder why?   Is the truth not allowed to stand?

Don't know who has been spinning those fables Sadie but alas untrue.

[sadie]

But we just skip this inconvenient detail now, brush it out of history, then 'the abduction' becomes a bit easier to explain.

Nothing inconvenient about it.  You are wrong..

If it were CB, then he is so skinny that he could possibly have even been standing hidden in the triangular space behind the door.   Not likely but a possibility.   I doubt this happened.

Also with the two bedrooms being immediately opposite each other and recessed into a lobby, a perp could have walked across the small open space (lobby)between the two doors as Gerry entered via the patio door.   With that patio door opening at its westward end, Gerry would walk towards Madeleines bedroom with his left shoulder close to the wall of his bedroom.   In this situation, initially he would have a view of neither of the bedroom doors nor of the lobby.   Plenty of opportunity for the perp to move rooms unseen.


Personally, I think he got warning that Gerry was coming and scootled outside in time.   Or maybe Gerrys feeling of the perp being present were unjustified.  We really do not know.   

With Jane having witnessed Tannerman with ?Madeleine, it seems that the perp must have been very close to 5A and Gerry from the time scale.

All the above is just a hypothesis, my opinion of what could have happened.   I prefer the perp to have been outside, very close; maybe having been warned by balcony man and scootled


Now, I am leaving it there.   Say what you will.

[Wonderfulspam]

Nothing inconvenient about it.  You are wrong..

If it were CB, then he is so skinny that he could possibly have even been standing hidden in the triangular space behind the door.   Not likely but a possibility.

Also with the two bedrooms being immediately opposite each other and recessed into a lobby, a perp could have walked across the small open space (lobby)between the two doors as Gerry entered via the patio door.   With that patio door opening at its westward end, Gerry would walk towards Madeleines bedroom with his left shoulder close to the wall of his bedroom.   In this situation, initially he would have a view of neither of the bedroom doors nor of the lobby.   Plenty of opportunity for the perp tp move rooms unseen.


Personally, I think he got warning that Gerry was coming and scootled outside in time.   Or maybe Gerrys feeling of the perp being present were unjustified.  We really do not know.   

With Jane having witnessed Tannerman with ?Madeleine, it seems that the perp must have been very close to 5A and Gerry from the time scale.

Yeah, flashlight or smoke signal from the watcher outside, or maybe Wolters has found a text message on Brueckners phone, along with the photograph.

[sadie]

Yeah, flashlight or smoke signal from the watcher outside, or maybe Wolters has found a text message on Brueckners phone, along with the photograph.

Could be flash light, but safer for balcony man to have a long drag on his fag to light it up IMO   Nothing suspicious about that to a casual observer; man smoking on balcony.