Brueckner charged with sexual offences in cases unrelated to Madeleine

[Wonderfulspam]

Then we have the rape of Hazel Behan.

Again, CB leaves scant or no evidence at the scene, Behan said he was meticulous about leaving no trace & used protection.

So, the only evidence the PJ had at that time, was that a 6' man in a mask & stockings filmed a rape of a holiday rep.

It wasn't until after Brueckner had been dobbed in by his mates for a similar crime, that anything linking he, specifically, to that crime could be established.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Seventeen years of a crimewave in Portugal and no one noticed?  Who was doing this is by the by at the moment.  Somebody was, while no one thought it was important enough to investigate.  What a disgrace.

Perhaps Portugal has a policy of not bothering to properly investigate crimes that involve foreign nationals, and are happy to leave it to other countries' police forces to solve.

[Eleanor]

Perhaps Portugal has a policy of not bothering to properly investigate crimes that involve foreign nationals, and are happy to leave it to other countries' police forces to solve.

Meanwhile they stitch up their own.

[Wonderfulspam]

Perhaps Portugal has a policy of not bothering to properly investigate crimes that involve foreign nationals, and are happy to leave it to other countries' police forces to solve.

Or, perhaps the evidence indicating Brueckner's involvement didn't actually materialise until his mates grassed him up.

[Wonderfulspam]

Meanwhile they stitch up their own.

Oh well, don't visit Portugal then aye.

Why not just sit at home moaning incessantly about the place instead.

[Eleanor]

This is all rather sad.  I spent several really nice holidays in Portugal during the 70s and it is such a beautiful country.
One long time friend owns a lovely house in Val du Lobo and another owns a rental villa just outside Praia da Luz. 

Brueckner has ruined my memories with the offences he has been found guilty of.  I would never go there again.

[Wonderfulspam]

This is all rather sad.  I spent several really nice holidays in Portugal during the 70s and it is such a beautiful country.
One long time friend owns a lovely house in Val du Lobo and another owns a rental villa just outside Praia da Luz. 

Brueckner has ruined my memories with the offences he has been found guilty of.  I would never go there again.

How has him raping a couple of women ruined your memories?  Brueckner wasn't on holidays with you was he? I mean, I could probably understand that if you'd spent a week relaxing by the pool & eating tapas with him, then later found out he'd been raping women in the hotel of an evening. That might ruin your holiday memories a bit, but other than that I can't see how really. Anyway, he's going to be in solitary for about the next 15 years or more now, so Portugal is safe again he'll just have to rape himself from now on.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is all rather sad.  I spent several really nice holidays in Portugal during the 70s and it is such a beautiful country.
One long time friend owns a lovely house in Val du Lobo and another owns a rental villa just outside Praia da Luz. 

Brueckner has ruined my memories with the offences he has been found guilty of.  I would never go there again.

This is precisely why IMO the PJ weren’t bothered with trying to investigate these crimes with any degree of rigour.  It would have shone a light on the seedier aspects of the Portuguese “paradise” and potentially turned off a lot of tourists.

[Gertrude]

No, Amaral said he was the almost perfect patsy, the only thing preventing him from being perfect is that he isn’t dead

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445467/Maddie-McCann-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-scapegoat-says-Portuguese-detective.html

His actual words were ''He's an almost perfect suspect. All that's lacking for him to become the perfect suspect is that he's dead.''

I don't think you can say for sure why Amaral thinks that.   

[Gertrude]

You are speculating on the content of my post and may I inform you that your speculation is a misinterpretation in which you have got my meaning wrong.  Which illustrates how valueless speculation actually is.

Nor is there any need for speculation regarding the thread on which we are currently posting.  It is a very easy one.

"Brueckner charged with sexual offences in cases unrelated to Madeleine". 

We know the five offences with which he has been charged and we know the circumstances surrounding each case; some of it in quite graphic detail although the two added rapes are a fairly recent introduction and may have come as a surprise to some.

The charges involve offences committed between 2000 and 2017.  That is a seventeen year binge of offences for which there is enough evidence to allow indictment.  My speculation is that these are the ones that are known about, but how many are known about but there is no evidence to support charges being laid and how many similar crimes have been committed and are not known about?

Sorry for my misinterpretation of 'move over'. I'm genuinely not sure what else you can have meant in the context.

[kizzy]

Possible trial of Maddie suspects not before 2023
12.10.2022
BRAUNSCHWEIG. Probably only in 2023, the 45-Year-old could come to court. He is accused of aggravated rape in three cases and two cases of abuse.

The German, who is also suspected in the case of the missing girl Maddie, will no longer have to face a trial this year on other allegations of sexual offences. Such proceedings will not begin before 2023, the Braunschweig Regional Court announced on Wednesday.
The competent criminal chamber will now examine in a so-called interim procedure whether the indictment will be admitted and the main proceedings will be opened, it said.

On Tuesday, the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office had filed charges against the 45-year-old German. He is accused of three counts of aggravated rape and two counts of child sexual abuse. He is said to have committed the acts between the end of December 2000 and June 2017 in Portugal.
https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/braunschweig/article236654441/Moeglicher-Prozess-gegen-Maddie-Verdaechtigen-startet-nicht-vor-2023.html

Possible trial of Maddie suspects not before 2023

So maybe possible or maybe not.

Without keep repeating this ..it is absolutely obvious IMO Maddie was used in getting maximum publicity for other crimes, by HCW.

His face was made famous worldwide as so called abductor -  media and news outlets helped him gather whatever evidence he could, regarding other crimes.

CB it seems is never going to be charged with the abduction of Maddie

There was no evidence of abduction then.... as there isn't now, 

[Vertigo Swirl]

His actual words were ''He's an almost perfect suspect. All that's lacking for him to become the perfect suspect is that he's dead.''

I don't think you can say for sure why Amaral thinks that.

His actual words are pretty much exactly what I wrote.  I don’t know why you’re disputing it and what else it could possibly mean apart from he’s an almost perfect patsy, not a crap patsy like you said he said.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Possible trial of Maddie suspects not before 2023

So maybe possible or maybe not.

Without keep repeating this ..it is absolutely obvious IMO Maddie was used in getting maximum publicity for other crimes, by HCW.

His face was made famous worldwide as so called abductor -  media and news outlets helped him gather whatever evidence he could, regarding other crimes.

CB it seems is never going to be charged with the abduction of Maddie

There was no evidence of abduction then.... as there isn't now,

Just tell me this - are you privy to all the evidence the Germans have collected on CB wrt Madeleine’s case?

[Gertrude]

Possible trial of Maddie suspects not before 2023

So maybe possible or maybe not.

Without keep repeating this ..it is absolutely obvious IMO Maddie was used in getting maximum publicity for other crimes, by HCW.

His face was made famous worldwide as so called abductor -  media and news outlets helped him gather whatever evidence he could, regarding other crimes.

CB it seems is never going to be charged with the abduction of Maddie

There was no evidence of abduction then.... as there isn't now,

That was my train of thought. Didn't Wolters say something about being surprised how seriously the British public took his saying Madeliene was dead?  That would point to him wanting exposure to get more info on his suspect for other crimes IMO.  I seem to remember the Germans made a bit of a mess early on and CB was released early at some point, I think this was a potential embarrassing situation they wanted to rectify be getting as much on him as possible.

[Gertrude]

His actual words are pretty much exactly what I wrote.  I don’t know why you’re disputing it and what else it could possibly mean apart from he’s an almost perfect patsy, not a crap patsy like you said he said.

I'm not disputing the words but your interpretation. It could mean that people react emotively to his crimes and therefore have no problem accepting he did something even when there doesn't seem to be evidence linking him to the scene. I'd say it's very hard to get meaning and context from so few words and be sure. It's a bit like Wolters 'concrete evidence'. It's well open to interpretation, especially with it being translated in the first place.