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Offline Brietta

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #285 on: November 25, 2022, 04:24:16 PM »
I assume you think you know "what defines a remit in an active police investigation". Do explain...
I refer you to my previous posts on the subject.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #286 on: November 25, 2022, 05:01:14 PM »
"Post of the Week" my Aunt Fanny. Anyone REASONABLE (and that clearly discounts you and the troll) will realise that some investigations remain unsolved despite the very best efforts of the police, and that sometimes all it takes is a lucky break such as one unsavoury specimen decides to spill the beans on another unsavoury specimen, which then finally takes the investigation down the correct route.

You mean Grange spent years chasing bogus leads, while the local paedo burglar was staring them in the face?

They had his phone data, which placed him right next to apartment 5a, but it still didn't dawn on them that this local paedo, who sold his car the day after the abduction & fled to Germany, was the man responsible.

Doesn't say much for Grange really does it.

I wonder what they were doing all them years prior?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #287 on: November 25, 2022, 05:50:44 PM »

There never was any Remit.  That much is obvious.  And so far no one has proved otherwise.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #288 on: November 25, 2022, 06:20:57 PM »
I refer you to my previous posts on the subject.

Really? I don't recall seeing an explanation of police remits.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #289 on: November 25, 2022, 06:25:09 PM »

There was No Remit.  And never any need for one.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #290 on: November 25, 2022, 06:26:50 PM »
There never was any Remit.  That much is obvious.  And so far no one has proved otherwise.

"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1. 

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’.  This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

End "

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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #291 on: November 25, 2022, 06:32:25 PM »
"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1. 

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’.  This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

End "

Yep…that definitely looks like a remit to me.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #292 on: November 25, 2022, 06:35:33 PM »
There was No Remit.  And never any need for one.

Yes, Grange followed the abduction evidence didn't they. But for some unknown reason the local paedo who worked at the Ocean Club, his phone data placing him right beside the apartment, along with his vehicle transfer & his escape to Germany immediately after the abduction. All of that wasn't quite enough to convince them until Busching spilled the beans. There must be some serious idiots working for Grange.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #293 on: November 25, 2022, 06:35:39 PM »
"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1. 

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’.  This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

End "

The Review.  Not The Investigation.  More codswallop being used to deflect.  I worry sometimes about the misuse of The English Language.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #294 on: November 25, 2022, 06:37:38 PM »
Yep…that definitely looks like a remit to me.

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK)

Well, there's no ambiguity there.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #295 on: November 25, 2022, 07:15:09 PM »
So how are we doing with stitching up The McCanns?  Is there any progress on that one?  No?  Gosh, what a surprise.

And No, I don't want to hear about Conspiracy Theories.  We have no proof or even evidence of that either.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #296 on: November 25, 2022, 07:25:48 PM »
So how are we doing with stitching up The McCanns?  Is there any progress on that one?  No?  Gosh, what a surprise.

And No, I don't want to hear about Conspiracy Theories.  We have no proof or even evidence of that either.

How on earth would you expect anyone on this forum to be able to 'stitch up' the McCanns?
What an absolutely ridiculous idea, but thanks for sharing it.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #297 on: November 25, 2022, 07:28:14 PM »
How on earth would you expect anyone on this forum to be able to 'stitch up' the McCanns?
What an absolutely ridiculous idea, but thanks for sharing it.

So just doing it for sport.  How sick is that.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #298 on: November 25, 2022, 07:29:55 PM »
So just doing it for sport.  How sick is that.

I don't know. How sick is it exactly? Care to explain.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #299 on: November 25, 2022, 07:34:08 PM »
I don't know. How sick is it exactly? Care to explain.

Words fail me on occasions.  But it's not my problem anyway.  Tis yours and yours and yours.