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Offline Joanne

The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« on: April 23, 2013, 09:21:54 PM »
Katrice Lee was born on 28 November 1979, in BMH, (British Military Hospital), Rinteln in West Germany, and spent the first two years of her life in Paderborn. Katrice Lee disappeared from a NAAFI shopping complex in Schloss Neuhaus, Paderborn in West Germany on 28 November 1981, the day of her second birthday. The family was at the time living in British Army quarters in Schloss Neuhaus.

 
Police believe Katrice was abducted from the NAAFI shop in Schloss Neuhaus, and has been raised by another family in England, Germany or elsewhere in Europe and now knows nothing of her true identity. Katrice's mother, Sharon Lee, wrote a poem dedicated for Katrice and all missing children. Her father, Richard Lee, was a sergeant in the 15th/19th The King's Royal Hussars. He (now lives in Hartlepool, Cleveland) said any chance of knowing what happened to his daughter would be welcome. Her sister, civil servant Natasha Lee, from Gosport, was seven when Katrice vanished. Every year she celebrates Katrice's birthday by releasing a balloon from a beach near Gosport, where she now lives. She writes on it, "To Katrice, Happy Birthday wherever you are, from your big sis, Tash". She adds the date and place she disappeared.

It was Katrice's birthday and the family decided to go to the NAAFI in Schloss Neuhaus to buy things for her 2nd birthday party.[2] For some reason, her sister, Natasha decided that she did not want to go shopping. Their Aunty Wendy and Uncle Cliff had come over from Bielefeld (they worked for the Army) for the birthday party. Wendy went with Katrice’s parents while Cliff stayed at home with Natasha. Ritchie Lee drove them to the NAAFI and waited for them in the car-park. It was the last payday before Christmas so the Naafi was packed. Katrice decided she did not want to go in the trolley so Mrs Lee carried her around the Naafi supermarket. Mrs Lee got to the checkout and went back to get some crisps. When she returned to the checkout, Katrice was nowhere to be seen. Aunt Wendy thought she had followed her mother down the aisle but she had vanished.

Katrice had a pink birthmark slightly to the right of the base of her spine, which looked like a rash. She also had a squint in her left eye, which could be corrected by surgery, she possibly may wear glasses like her sister Natasha has to sometimes. Her curly hair was lightbrown, and she had brown eyes. At the time of her disappearance her ears were not pierced and she spoke only English. Katrice was wearing red wellington boots, turquoise duffel coat, green and blue tartan pinafore dress with a white blouse underneath and white tights. The dress had frills round the shoulders.

 The military police were effectively in charge, but had to negotiate with the German police because the NAAFI building was in a German town. Both the military and German police believed Katrice had fallen in the nearby river and drowned, no body was found, the German police refused to go to the press. It was six weeks before an item appeared in the newspaper. The investigation did not get very far and despite dragging the local river and conducting house-to-house inquiries, no trace of Katrice was ever found.

Police re-opened the case of Katrice Lee in 2000, after computer technology helped them to form an image of how she could look now. People came forward who had never been interviewed. There was a young man who had been standing behind them at the checkout, and even one of the checkout ladies.

One woman also came forward to say that her boyfriend at the time, who was in the same regiment, had confessed to murdering a child. He lived up in Northumbria and the military police went to interview him. He denied it and the woman who gave the details died soon after, so nothing ever came of it. The military police told the family they thought he was probably a fantasist.

Three recent sightings of Katrice came after her story appeared on the BBC's Missing Live programme. During the show, a digital recreation of what Katrice could look like as a 29-year-old was shown.

Katrice's older sister, Natasha, appeared on Crimewatch to highlight the appeal. When she first went on Crimewatch a lady phoned up and left a message on Katrice’s father’s answer machine. It said 'look for your daughter in France'. The police took the tape away, but there was nothing more. Major Kevin Bell-Walker, who was leading the inquiry, said: "With the advances in crime detection like search techniques, forensic archaeology and DNA profiling, it does suggest the case can be progressed after all this time".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Katrice_Lee

Offline puglove

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2013, 09:25:20 PM »
Did you read about Donna Wright, Jo?
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline Joanne

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2013, 09:32:11 PM »
I did, she's played merry havoc on that poor family, thankfully she isn't appealing the sentance.

Offline Hedgehog

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 08:38:37 PM »
I have read the instruction, but I don't think I should open a new topic, because it would have the same title anyway.

Before I start let me mention that I already provided this information to the RMP, the german police in Bilefeld, who is supposed to help the RMP, and to various other police forces.

The disappearance of Katrice Lee has a lot to do with my case and you'll be able to read why.

As I mentioned in the Introduce Yourself Section I am not a native speaker, I'm german, but I had English lessons for over 6 years in school, and in total for 7 years. So please be patient and ask if you don't understand what I'm saying.


Also I want to tell you upfront, that nobody believed me so far, people make fun of me and call me a conspiracy theorist for example. The reason for that is the background of Katrice Lee's abduction (she was abducted, she didn't just disappear). Another reason for that might be, that I'm, as I said, not a native speaker and people just tend to forget about that. But also german people do not believe me, or they say they wouldn't. And this is what it is all about actually - people saying that they do not believe me, although they know I'm telling the truth.
Okay, then I'll begin now.


I met Katrice Lee in spring 1990 in an apartment not very  far away from Mainz, Germany, and she talked to me. I have seen her again in early 1991 in my grandfathers basement in Mainz-Gonsenheim, Germany. Gonsenheim is a suburb of Mainz.

When I met Katrice Lee in 1990, she was held captive in the mentioned apartment, that was basically used as a child-brothel. The people responsible for this usually don't abduct children. They sometimes abduct children for a short period of time (couple of hours max.), rape them and give administer substances to them that cause a so called anterograde amnesia, so the children don't remember what has happened. I am going to tell you more about those people, and this is also the part of the information that obviously makes me sound so unbelievable.
I can only hope to find to find some people who are willing to think a little bit outside the box here.

But first I want to tell you, what Katrice Lee said to me. Have in mind, that I was 5 years old at that time.

When I was standing alone in the hallway of that appartment a girl was standing in an open door of a room to my left, that looked like a children's room. She was hesitating, checking the situation again and again. (I had seen her minutes before already and already had the feeling that she wants to talk to me.) She then approached me and said (in german): "Can you help me?" I nodded. She then said: "Can you tell my mommy I'm here." I turned my head towards the door, where I knew a woman (around 45 years old) was sitting behind, and was about to start calling her, when the girl interrupted me and said: "That's not my mommy."
This confused me, since I did not realize my own situation. I asked her, who her mother is and asked for her name. The girl: "Sharon. Her name is Sharon. - Tell her I am here. I am already here since a very long time. (The
way she pronounced the name was new to me. I knew I don't know a Sharon, but I realized that I came across that name before, because I was watching a lot of american TV series. But in TV the name was pronounced
differently - the american way. But she pronounced it the british way.) Because in that moment, and because of what had happened to me just before, I already had realized, that my mother is not a good person, and so I asked her: You really think it is a good idea to tell your mother? - - It looked like she was making up her mind about what I had said, paused for a couple of seconds and then said: "Then tell my sister! - Her name is Natasha, she must be looking for me. I know that! I know that she is looking for me." (She probably used the term 'searching' instead of 'looking'.) I told her, that I neither know a Sharon, nor a Natasha, and asked her for her last name. "Lee", she said. (That name rang a bell, because my father was wearing Lee jeans and
I had once asked him how the text on the logo of his pants is pronounced.) And what is your name, I asked her. „Katrice“, she said. -(pause)- "My name is Katrice Lee", she said. Then there was suddenly another girl to my right, that was around the age of Katrice. That girl was smiling in a spiteful way and asked me, what the girl (Katrice) had just said to me. Because the older woman I mentioned before had given me tea, that contained a substance, that had made me very dizzy and sleepy, and because I was just a little boy, I told that girl, what I had been told. That girl then turned her head towards Katrice, said, "I'm gonna tell that", and left. Katrice then looked me straight in the face and asked, whether I was going to do what she asked me for. I promised her, that I would, but I did not remember anything later on. This is because those people, the members of that cult, that network, always give/administer the children substances that induce something that is comparable to an amnesia. (Benzodiazepines for example cause so called anterograde amnesia.)

It was definitely Katrice. I also remember, that I was confused, because it appeared like she was looking towards the door with one eye and towards me with the other. Also, as soon as I remembered the incident, I was doing
research about the case online, and shortly after that, members of the network attacked me again, just to find out, what I know about Katrice. A "good friend" of mine, a yound girl, invited me to her home. There another guy was sitting next to me. This guy suddenly gave me an injection in the back of my neck. (They use some sort of device to do so, that is actually used by animal doctors when they need to administer medicine to a larger
group of animals. They use it, because it is easier to use for people not familiar with syringes and it also works faster than a syringe.) The substance they used works pretty much like a truth serum. (Sodium thiopental ?!)


I know, that already the last sentence sounds pretty weird, but shall I do? Should I leave that information out? Also I want to mention upfront, tghat the people doing this, are doing a lot of other stuff to make a person sound unbelievable in case that person/child would ever be able to remember and tell somebody. For example they sometimes wear silly costumes etc..


So what is the background of all this?

Of course many of those people, so also the people directly responsible for the abduction of Katrice Lee, are paedophiles. But the people who "rape" the children are sometimes not. And at this point I have to explain a couple of things.
The people responsible for Katrice Lee's abduction created a network for another purpose, that has actually nothing to do with child abuse. But they needed children to create the network and they need children to keep it alive and to extend it. Basically it is all about extortion. And the best way to extort somebody is with compromising evidence that make the extorted person appear as a paedophile. So for example they do the following:
A person walks into an ordinary brothel to have sexual intercourse with a prostitute. While the prostitute and the person have intercourse, the prostitute then puts something into the persons drink, that makes him dizzy and sleepy (knockout drops) and that affects his reasoning. Then the prostitute leaves the room and a child, dressed like the prostitute comes in. The person affected by the knockout drops does not recognize the child as a child and he continues to have intercourse, but now he is having intercourse with a child. And everything is recorded via hidden cameras, or sometimes they even walk into the room with a camera. It doesn't really matter, because the person affected by the knockout drops doesn't realize it anyway; his vision is blurred and his reasoning is heavily affected. After that they start to extort the person with the compromising videos or pictures. But they do not ask for money, they want the person to participate in their network.

What is this network all about?

The network was created by people who work for the so called new far-right (movement). And their objective is to conduct subversion. At the end they're looking forward to rule Germany (again) one day. Of course this would never work, but those people are so fanatic, that they created the network for it.

And there is even more.
In order to successfully conduct subversion, they started by subordinating their own children to a psychological concept that is comparable to child soldier recruitment.
They raped their own children, confronted them with violence, etc.. After a while, usually when those children reached the age of criminal responsibility (14 years in Germany), they offered those children, that if they participate in the network, they wouldn't get raped and beaten anymore. When they took the offer, the first thing they had to do is to commit a crime. And that meant, that they had to (for example) visit one of their schoolmates at home while the parents were away. They then had to put knockout drops in a drink and give it to that schoolmate. After the schoolmate had lost consciousness, they had to let in adult members of the network, who sometimes also brought other paedophiles with them, they were planning to extort afterwards (those people usually make use of those incidents as efficient as possible). Then everything was documented - the rape, that the child who gave the knockout drops to the schoolmate helped them and that the other paedophile raped the schoolmate. So afterwards the people who planned the incident were able to extort the child who helped them and the paedophile who raped the schoolmate of that child. Also they sold the videos to other paedophiles and, of course, they again extorted those paedphiles afterwards.


If you were able to follow me until here, you probably already realized that this is a very evil snowball system. This snowball system is already running for at least three decades, probably longer, but I can only tell you about the last 28 years, because that's how long I'm experiencing it. Think for yourself how large it must have become over that period of time - it is large, it's huge. And now those children who participated work in all kinds of authorities in Germany. Many of them have joined police forces all over Germany. I can only tell you about my hometown and the area around my hometown. One police station in my town is full of those people. I know many of them personally from my childhood, so I know what I'm talking about. And I know all this, because they wanted me to participate. The first time they asked me was when I was just 5 years old, but I always refused to participate, and therefore I had and have to suffer.
And because their people are working in police forces and all kinds of authorities in Germany, there will be no help in the search for Katrice Lee. Believe me, I tried and went to the police and told them what I know about Katrice, but they're blocking everything and they're of course threatening me. I even contacted all the other relevant security authorities, but they didn't answer me, or they told me, that what I'm telling them is out of their jurisdiction. They obviously try to take me for an idiot.

For now that shall be it. First I want to wait, whether you think I'm a crazy person, or whether you're interested in further information.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 10:51:12 PM by Hedgehog »

Offline John

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 02:22:51 AM »
I have read the instruction, but I don't think I should open a new topic, because it would have the same title anyway.

Before I start let me mention that I already provided this information to the RMP, the german police in Bilefeld, who is supposed to help the RMP, and to various other police forces.

The disappearance of Katrice Lee has a lot to do with my case and you'll be able to read why.

As I mentioned in the Introduce Yourself Section I am not a native speaker, I'm german, but I had English lessons for over 6 years in school, and in total for 7 years. So please be patient and ask if you don't understand what I'm saying.


Also I want to tell you upfront, that nobody believed me so far, people make fun of me and call me a conspiracy theorist for example. The reason for that is the background of Katrice Lee's abduction (she was abducted, she didn't just disappear). Another reason for that might be, that I'm, as I said, not a native speaker and people just tend to forget about that. But also german people do not believe me, or they say they wouldn't. And this is what it is all about actually - people saying that they do not believe me, although they know I'm telling the truth.
Okay, then I'll begin now.


I met Katrice Lee in spring 1990 in an apartment not very  far away from Mainz, Germany, and she talked to me. I have seen her again in early 1991 in my grandfathers basement in Mainz-Gonsenheim, Germany. Gonsenheim is a suburb of Mainz.

When I met Katrice Lee in 1990, she was held captive in the mentioned apartment, that was basically used as a child-brothel. The people responsible for this usually don't abduct children. They sometimes abduct children for a short period of time (couple of hours max.), rape them and give administer substances to them that cause a so called anterograde amnesia, so the children don't remember what has happened. I am going to tell you more about those people, and this is also the part of the information that obviously makes me sound so unbelievable.
I can only hope to find to find some people who are willing to think a little bit outside the box here.

But first I want to tell you, what Katrice Lee said to me. Have in mind, that I was 5 years old at that time.

When I was standing alone in the hallway of that appartment a girl was standing in an open door of a room to my left, that looked like a children's room. She was hesitating, checking the situation again and again. (I had seen her minutes before already and already had the feeling that she wants to talk to me.) She then approached me and said (in german): "Can you help me?" I nodded. She then said: "Can you tell my mommy I'm here." I turned my head towards the door, where I knew a woman (around 45 years old) was sitting behind, and was about to start calling her, when the girl interrupted me and said: "That's not my mommy."
This confused me, since I did not realize my own situation. I asked her, who her mother is and asked for her name. The girl: "Sharon. Her name is Sharon. - Tell her I am here. I am already here since a very long time. (The
way she pronounced the name was new to me. I knew I don't know a Sharon, but I realized that I came across that name before, because I was watching a lot of american TV series. But in TV the name was pronounced
differently - the american way. But she pronounced it the british way.) Because in that moment, and because of what had happened to me just before, I already had realized, that my mother is not a good person, and so I asked her: You really think it is a good idea to tell your mother? - - It looked like she was making up her mind about what I had said, paused for a couple of seconds and then said: "Then tell my sister! - Her name is Natasha, she must be looking for me. I know that! I know that she is looking for me." (She probably used the term 'searching' instead of 'looking'.) I told her, that I neither know a Sharon, nor a Natasha, and asked her for her last name. "Lee", she said. (That name rang a bell, because my father was wearing Lee jeans and
I had once asked him how the text on the logo of his pants is pronounced.) And what is your name, I asked her. „Katrice“, she said. -(pause)- "My name is Katrice Lee", she said. Then there was suddenly another girl to my right, that was around the age of Katrice. That girl was smiling in a spiteful way and asked me, what the girl (Katrice) had just said to me. Because the older woman I mentioned before had given me tea, that contained a substance, that had made me very dizzy and sleepy, and because I was just a little boy, I told that girl, what I had been told. That girl then turned her head towards Katrice, said, "I'm gonna tell that", and left. Katrice then looked me straight in the face and asked, whether I was going to do what she asked me for. I promised her, that I would, but I did not remember anything later on. This is because those people, the members of that cult, that network, always give/administer the children substances that induce something that is comparable to an amnesia. (Benzodiazepines for example cause so called anterograde amnesia.)

It was definitely Katrice. I also remember, that I was confused, because it appeared like she was looking towards the door with one eye and towards me with the other. Also, as soon as I remembered the incident, I was doing
research about the case online, and shortly after that, members of the network attacked me again, just to find out, what I know about Katrice. A "good friend" of mine, a yound girl, invited me to her home. There another guy was sitting next to me. This guy suddenly gave me an injection in the back of my neck. (They use some sort of device to do so, that is actually used by animal doctors when they need to administer medicine to a larger
group of animals. They use it, because it is easier to use for people not familiar with syringes and it also works faster than a syringe.) The substance they used works pretty much like a truth serum. (Sodium thiopental ?!)


I know, that already the last sentence sounds pretty weird, but shall I do? Should I leave that information out? Also I want to mention upfront, tghat the people doing this, are doing a lot of other stuff to make a person sound unbelievable in case that person/child would ever be able to remember and tell somebody. For example they sometimes wear silly costumes etc..


So what is the background of all this?

Of course many of those people, so also the people directly responsible for the abduction of Katrice Lee, are paedophiles. But the people who "rape" the children are sometimes not. And at this point I have to explain a couple of things.
The people responsible for Katrice Lee's abduction created a network for another purpose, that has actually nothing to do with child abuse. But they needed children to create the network and they need children to keep it alive and to extend it. Basically it is all about extortion. And the best way to extort somebody is with compromising evidence that make the extorted person appear as a paedophile. So for example they do the following:
A person walks into an ordinary brothel to have sexual intercourse with a prostitute. While the prostitute and the person have intercourse, the prostitute then puts something into the persons drink, that makes him dizzy and sleepy (knockout drops) and that affects his reasoning. Then the prostitute leaves the room and a child, dressed like the prostitute comes in. The person affected by the knockout drops does not recognize the child as a child and he continues to have intercourse, but now he is having intercourse with a child. And everything is recorded via hidden cameras, or sometimes they even walk into the room with a camera. It doesn't really matter, because the person affected by the knockout drops doesn't realize it anyway; his vision is blurred and his reasoning is heavily affected. After that they start to extort the person with the compromising videos or pictures. But they do not ask for money, they want the person to participate in their network.

What is this network all about?

The network was created by people who work for the so called new far-right (movement). And their objective is to conduct subversion. At the end they're looking forward to rule Germany (again) one day. Of course this would never work, but those people are so fanatic, that they created the network for it.

And there is even more.
In order to successfully conduct subversion, they started by subordinating their own children to a psychological concept that is comparable to child soldier recruitment.
They raped their own children, confronted them with violence, etc.. After a while, usually when those children reached the age of criminal responsibility (14 years in Germany), they offered those children, that if they participate in the network, they wouldn't get raped and beaten anymore. When they took the offer, the first thing they had to do is to commit a crime. And that meant, that they had to (for example) visit one of their schoolmates at home while the parents were away. They then had to put knockout drops in a drink and give it to that schoolmate. After the schoolmate had lost consciousness, they had to let in adult members of the network, who sometimes also brought other paedophiles with them, they were planning to extort afterwards (those people usually make use of those incidents as efficient as possible). Then everything was documented - the rape, that the child who gave the knockout drops to the schoolmate helped them and that the other paedophile raped the schoolmate. So afterwards the people who planned the incident were able to extort the child who helped them and the paedophile who raped the schoolmate of that child. Also they sold the videos to other paedophiles and, of course, they again extorted those paedphiles afterwards.


If you were able to follow me until here, you probably already realized that this is a very evil snowball system. This snowball system is already running for at least three decades, probably longer, but I can only tell you about the last 28 years, because that's how long I'm experiencing it. Think for yourself how large it must have become over that period of time - it is large, it's huge. And now those children who participated work in all kinds of authorities in Germany. Many of them have joined police forces all over Germany. I can only tell you about my hometown and the area around my hometown. One police station in my town is full of those people. I know many of them personally from my childhood, so I know what I'm talking about. And I know all this, because they wanted me to participate. The first time they asked me was when I was just 5 years old, but I always refused to participate, and therefore I had and have to suffer.
And because their people are working in police forces and all kinds of authorities in Germany, there will be no help in the search for Katrice Lee. Believe me, I tried and went to the police and told them what I know about Katrice, but they're blocking everything and they're of course threatening me. I even contacted all the other relevant security authorities, but they didn't answer me, or they told me, that what I'm telling them is out of their jurisdiction. They obviously try to take me for an idiot.

For now that shall be it. First I want to wait, whether you think I'm a crazy person, or whether you're interested in further information.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 08:56:39 AM »
Hedgehog

Thank you for being so open.  You are very brave.  I am very interested as I have come across somewhat similar reports before.

I believe what you are saying.

When I was researching deeply, I came across a website, now wiped, that gave a long list of sustances , many natural others not, which caused amnesia after a rape or abuse.  Some drugs are so powerful that they cause the taker to forget exactly who they are .  It is easy then to implant new "memories" in the person involved.  They become , for all intents and purposes, another person.

Am short of time at the moment, but will try and come back later

There are also drugs to highten the sexuality of the person given them.

Offline Hedgehog

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 04:38:05 PM »
Oh, yeah, that sounds pretty much like one of the substances they frequently administered to me. They gave me sth. that causes an erection, then they pulled down my pants and took pictures. I think this inhumane treatment is called disgraceing. They want the person to feel embarrassed.
Also they use that substance to give it to the children, in order to .... hard to say it that way .... make the rape more "fun" for the paedophiles they sell the children to.

And, by the way, the most common substances, that cause anterograde amnesia, are benzodiazepines.

Thank you for believing me. You know, it's so frustrating, that the police doesn't interrogate me with the assisstance  of a psychologist. That way they would be able to assess my credibility.
The big problem, that I see here, is, that most people believe, that corruption is not existing in europe. Especially not among police officers, and especially not the level of corruption I'm telling them about - which is actually not corruption, it is extortion, as I said.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 04:41:10 PM by Hedgehog »

Offline sadie

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013, 10:44:58 PM »
Oh, yeah, that sounds pretty much like one of the substances they frequently administered to me. They gave me sth. that causes an erection, then they pulled down my pants and took pictures. I think this inhumane treatment is called disgraceing. They want the person to feel embarrassed.
Also they use that substance to give it to the children, in order to .... hard to say it that way .... make the rape more "fun" for the paedophiles they sell the children to.

And, by the way, the most common substances, that cause anterograde amnesia, are benzodiazepines.

Thank you for believing me. You know, it's so frustrating, that the police doesn't interrogate me with the assisstance  of a psychologist. That way they would be able to assess my credibility.
The big problem, that I see here, is, that most people believe, that corruption is not existing in europe. Especially not among police officers, and especially not the level of corruption I'm telling them about - which is actually not corruption, it is extortion, as I said.
Oh, I think that we have all seen signs of corruption, or at least extremely lax policing.  Some of the things going on in Portugal have needed seeing to be believed.  The Dutroux affair in Belgium illustrated corruption in the State as well as in the Police Force.   IIRC correctly 30 people died mysteriously in Belgium.  People who were going to be witnesses in that case.

Sound like you have been pushed around a good deal.  I dont know how to suggest you get the attention that you should be getting.  Trouble is that if you make too many waves then all sorts of nasty disinformation can be given out against you.  Propaganda can be very distructive.  Pity you dontb know someone that you can trust who would get the ear of people that matter.

Maybe there is a forum specifically for people who liike you have been seriously abused and damaged.  One that will listen and respond in a way that helps you.  My understanding is that you very much want the Authorities to take on board whay has happened and to use that information to help stamp out that type of abuse.

If after trying hard, you are unable to find such a place, then have you thought of personal Counselling?  It helps loads of people altho not all.  It is good to unload stuff that is upsetting you.  I remember once having a very traumatic period in my life, real injustice ... and I used to let all my feelings out by sitting and typing at the computer for hours on end, day or night, letting it all pour out.

I could say what I liked about the offending peoople, cos no-one was going to read it except me.  It definitely helped unload some of my anger.

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I think this inhumane treatment is called disgraceing. They want the person to feel embarrassed
.  Yep you are probably right.  It is disgusting.    Maybe it makes them feel powerful bullying and belittling you

I wish I could help you more but I dont know how, to be honest.   Sometimes in the Uk, Counselling can  be obtained for free from certian charities.  It can also be quite expensive  . My recommendation if you go in that direction is that you try a counsellor for a few times.  If they are helping, then stick with them but if not try another Counsellor.  One might understand your problem better


I counselled pro bono for 8 years attached to a charitable organisation.  I know that I really helped some peopole, others I am not so sure of.   Maybe someone else may have done better with a handful of my clients.  I think we all felt the same way, that we were more successful with some than others..


I never normally come into the Katrice Lee forum, but if you feel that you want to talk a little you can always PM me and I will listen.

Take care

sadie x

Offline Hedgehog

Re: The Disappearence of Katrice Lee
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 03:53:14 PM »
Thanks a lot. - You know, the problem is much more serious than people think. The people who are responsible for what happened to Katrice Lee are still around and with my information they could be arrested immediately. As a matter of fact I could currently also prove what I'm saying about the substances they use, because I know who they attacked recently. The police could collect a hair sample from that person, analyze it and they'd see, that I'm telling the truth.
Also, and this is what makes me so angry, I met Katrice Lee more than 20 years ago. The people who were holding her captive were at that time already in their mid 40s, probably older. If the police continues to delay everthing, those people could get away with their crime, because they would be dead.
It is really frustrating also, because I see one guy, who was present when I met Katrice Lee, every day - he is a TEACHER NOW. And he is not the only one I know of, working with children. The network I was telling here about made their children become teachers, police men, doctors, workers for the youth protection service - so basically everything that has at least something to do with children.

Two days ago I wrote an Email to the UK embassy in Berlin. They responded and referred me to a missing child charity. I mean, what the hell is going on with them, Katrice is a UK citizen. In my opinion, they have to do something when they receive information about a citizen that was/is in a dangerous situation abroad.

I even wrote messages to the MI6, because in my opinion, that network has the quality of a terrorist network, because they've got a lot of their members in german security forces, so they can pretty much do a lot of evil things. Yeah, they don't blow up buildings or people, they are just conducting terrorist attacks another way.
And who else should I contact, since the german police will not help the RMP to arrest those people anyway - so it actually doesn't make a difference whether the RMP believes me or not.

The only chance I see here, is, if an UK judge files international arrest warrants for the people, who abducted Katrice Lee and held her captive, then even the police officers who help the network wouldn't be able to do much anymore.