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ferryman

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2013, 12:11:33 AM »
There is a huge amount of speculation in the media that Madeleine is dead, particularly with the obvious change in strategy of the investigation recently. At our meeting with the Portuguese police today we reaffirmed that we have to believe Madeleine is alive until there is concrete evidence to the contrary. It is this belief that has driven everything we have done in relation to publicising Madeleines disappearance over the last 3 months.

No actual contradiction there at all.

Gerry has simply omitted a lot of detail Kate included, which could all be incorporated into Gerry's account seamlessly ...

registrar

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #91 on: April 26, 2013, 12:14:29 AM »
not interested in your honesty - a rather shaky concept in the virtual world

just interested in source material that you claim is existing

Anne has,  very kindly,  quoted it above  (  the comparitive quotes from Kate's book are in my previous posts )

It's a bit like an Easter egg hunt with you icabodcrane

You make sweeping generalisations - and dress them up as FACT

and when challenged - ask the challengers to find out the source material for themselves

PFFFFFFFFFF

are you not a bit arrogant and patronising

or are you simply untidy in your logic?


AnneGuedes

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #92 on: April 26, 2013, 12:18:24 AM »
Here is the complete report of Kate McCann ("Madeleine") of the"regular informal meeting". We were taken to an upstairs room at the police station where we were greeted by Luís Neves and Guilhermino Encarnação. Our interpreter this time was a police officer, not Proconsul Angela Morado, as was usually the case. The whole demeanour of Neves and Encarnação was different. They looked serious and cold.
There had been a ‘shift’ in the investigation, they said. They had always been optimistic that Madeleine was alive, but now things had changed. Almost instantaneously I could feel my breathing pattern altering and that familiar constriction in my throat. Gerry asked if any evidence had come to light to suggest that Madeleine was dead but they wouldn’t reply. There was a lot of frowning going on which, combined with the language barrier, made it less obvious that they weren’t answering us. Gerry was then asked to leave the room. Now the sirens in my head were deafening. I was on my own and afraid. Please God, let my Madeleine be OK.
Tell us about that night, they said.Tell us everything that happened after the children went to bed. I gave them every detail I could remember, as I had before, but this time they responded by just staring at me and shaking their heads. I was reeling with confusion, disbelief and panic. What the hell was going on? Evidently not satisfied with my account, they pressed me. Was there anything else I wanted to add? Anything else unusual that had occurred that night?
Of course there wasn’t. If there had been I would have told them on 3 May. I’d recounted absolutely everything and anything – more than they wanted or needed to know, probably, just in case some triviality I recalled might be significant. How could they think I would hold something back that might help my daughter? Why were they asking me this? Why?
Neves stated bluntly that they didn’t believe my version of events. It ‘didn’t fit’ with what they knew. Didn’t fit? What did they know? I was sobbing now, well past the stage of silent tears and stifled sniffs. I began to wail hysterically, drawing breath in desperate gasps.
Why did I think Madeleine had been alive when she was taken from the apartment? they persisted. I explained between sobs that there had been nothing to suggest otherwise; no indication that she might have come to harm. Had I ever considered that she may be dead? Yes, of course. Early on that was all I thought, all the time: that some paedophile had grabbed her, abused her and later killed her. Then I’d begun to wonder if she was being held by pornographers, I told them, or had been taken for someone who wanted a child.
I was becoming more and more distressed and more and more scared. I wanted Gerry. Still they pushed me. They proposed that when I’d put Madeleine to bed that night, it wasn’t actually the last time I’d seen her. But it was. It was! I felt I was being bullied, and I suppose I was. I assume these tactics were deliberate: knock her off balance by telling her that her daughter is dead and get her to confess. Because I was in no doubt now that they were trying to make me say I’d killed Madeleine or knew what had happened to her. I might be naive but I’m not stupid.
On and on it went. They tried to convince me I’d had a blackout – a ‘loss of memory episode’, I think they called it. My denials, answers and pleas fell on deaf ears. This was their theory and they wanted to shoehorn me into it, end of story. At last they seemed to decide that the interview was over. They told me I could ring them any time, day or night, to give them the information they were waiting for.
I was allowed to spend a couple of minutes with Gerry, but I don’t think he was able to get much sense out of me. Then it was his turn to be interrogated. He managed to remain a little calmer than I had but he was still visibly upset and shaken afterwards. He gave the police his account of the events of 3 May and the reasons why he didn’t believe Madeleine had been killed in the apartment. Through his tears he pleaded with the two men: ‘Do you have evidence that Madeleine is dead? We’re her parents. You have to tell us.’
‘It’s coming,’ Neves told him. ‘It’s coming!’
Outside the room, I was praying – begging prayers. I was beginning to come unstuck. But if I thought the police had finished with me, I was mistaken. Before long I was ordered back into the room to join Gerry for round three.
Once again Gerry wanted to know if the case had now become a murder inquiry. The answer was indirect: ‘You can probably guess that from our lack of response.’ In a slightly threatening manner, Luís asked why I wasn’t looking him straight in the eye. There was no reason, other than that I was incapable of looking at anyone properly: my own eyes were so swollen and sore that I was struggling to keep them from closing completely. Finally, Gerry tried to establish when – and if – we would be having another meeting with them. ‘The next time we meet it will be across the table.’ The message behind this rather Delphic statement was clear: there would be no more informal meetings.

Secret of Justice was running, that's true..
Why is there nothing in the files ?

registrar

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #93 on: April 26, 2013, 12:20:45 AM »
wow - so none of that was in the files

cool - because then I don't have to read it

it's immaterial

Offline John

Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #94 on: April 26, 2013, 12:21:51 AM »
Gerry's blog entry 8th August 2007.

Kates parents left early this morning. We did a short interview on how our faith has helped us during the last 3 months since Madeleines abduction. Given the events of the last few days we need to draw even greater strength from our faith and everyone who has supported us.

With the huge amount of media attention on us again it is very difficult to do anything with the kids without them being filmed and it is unfair on them. There is a huge amount of speculation in the media that Madeleine is dead, particularly with the obvious change in strategy of the investigation recently. At our meeting with the Portuguese police today we reaffirmed that we have to believe Madeleine is alive until there is concrete evidence to the contrary. It is this belief that has driven everything we have done in relation to publicising Madeleines disappearance over the last 3 months.



http://www.mccannfiles.com/id14.html
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

registrar

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #95 on: April 26, 2013, 12:22:28 AM »
we should have a Mills and Boon thread on here

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #96 on: April 26, 2013, 12:24:44 AM »
Gerry's blog entry 10th August 2007.

Today Kate and I did a series of TV interviews for Portuguese and foreign TV. It has always been very important to us that we speak to the Portuguese people directly since we are in their country and have received such tremendous support, particularly from the local community. We again talked about the YouTube channel Don’t You Forget Me which was launched yesterday. Naturally we were also asked about the events of this week, which has been incredibly difficult for us with wild speculation in the media. We have always been told that the police had an open mind about Madeleines abduction and that all scenarios were possible.

In the first few days after Madeleines disappearance it was so difficult for us not to imagine the worst case scenario: that she had been taken and murdered, particularly in light of the statistics on child abduction. However as the massive investigation and extensive search did not find any evidence of serious harm to Madeleine, we started to hope that she would be found alive. This belief has been encouraged by the police and reinforced by the experts at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children on my recent visit to Washington. There have been a number of children recovered, even after years of abduction, and whom the authorities had thought must be dead.

Everything we have done in the last 99 days in the campaign to help find Madeleine has been driven by fact that all our family and friends feel that there is a reasonable chance Madeleine is still alive. Kate and I, like all parents of missing children will always have that hope unless we see concrete evidence to the contrary. It is this hope that has sustained us along with the overwhelming support we have received from family, friends and well-wishers. As parents, we have always said we need to know what has happened to our daughter who has been such a massive part of our life. If the current police activity does uncover new evidence that Madeleine has been seriously harmed we should be the first to know.

We have always felt that the best chance of finding Madeleine is through the police investigation. We have done our best to get relevant information in to the enquiry, particularly from tourists who were in the Algarve around the time of her abduction. The fact that Madeleine could have been moved out of Portugal easily in the first few hours has been the reason the campaign has had to have an international dimension. One in six missing children in North America are found as a direct result of high awareness through distribution of posters and media exposure.

Tonight we attended the weekly vigil to pray for Madeleine and other missing children. These services have a calm serenity, which allow us to contemplate quietly. There was also a vigil in Rothley attended by family and friends. Tomorrow we will be marking the 100 day very quietly with a prayer service in Praia da Luz. Other family will be at the world pipe band chamionships in Glasgow and on the streets in Liverpool. A number of sporting events will also be marking the day.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #97 on: April 26, 2013, 12:27:55 AM »
Why did I think Madeleine had been alive when she was taken from the apartment? they persisted. I explained between sobs that there had been nothing to suggest otherwise; no indication that she might have come to harm.

That's the key part from Kate's account that accords with Gerry's blog.

The rest could be shoe-horned into Gerry's blog without contradiction.

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #98 on: April 26, 2013, 12:30:24 AM »
Ok, I'll be the first one to respond.

She didn't answer because she was afraid that if she told the truth she would implicate herself and if lying she could be judged for perjury.

But what answer could implicate this mother of a disappeared child? That's what we cannot understand if she is totally innocent of any wrongdoing.


Admin note:
She wasn't under oath so she couldn't have been prosecuted for perjury.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

icabodcrane

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2013, 12:31:31 AM »
Thankyou Anne and John

I wasn't being lazy, I just don't know how to  'copy and paste'  and when I bring anything from another site I have to copy it in long-hand and then re-type it here

...  which is a bit wearysome at this time of night

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2013, 12:35:31 AM »
Ok, I'll be the first one to respond.

She didn't answer because she was afraid that if she told the truth she would implicate herself and if lying she could be judged for perjury.

But what answer could implicate this mother of a disappeared child? That's what we cannot understand if she is totally innocent of any wrongdoing.


Admin note:
She wasn't under oath so she couldn't have been prosecuted for perjury.

This is not Common Law here, John, no oath, no bible, hence no perjury.

icabodcrane

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2013, 12:37:17 AM »
Ok, I'll be the first one to respond.

She didn't answer because she was afraid that if she told the truth she would implicate herself and if lying she could be judged for perjury.

But what answer could implicate this mother of a disappeared child? That's what we cannot understand if she is totally innocent of any wrongdoing.


Admin note:
She wasn't under oath so she couldn't have been prosecuted for perjury.

This is not Common Law here, John, no oath, no bible, hence no perjury.

How about perverting the course of justice ?

ferryman

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2013, 12:37:17 AM »
To copy and paste, right click and drag your cursor over the chosen text so as to highlight it.

Then right click again and you should bring up a series of options including copy

Click that, then position your cursor at the start of where you want the chosen text to appear/

Right click again and you should bring up the paste option.

Click that and your text should appear.


registrar

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2013, 12:38:03 AM »
Thankyou Anne and John

I wasn't being lazy, I just don't know how to  'copy and paste'  and when I bring anything from another site I have to copy it in long-hand and then re-type it here

...  which is a bit wearysome at this time of night

I just don't know how to  'copy and paste'


Oh dear, Jesus wept

icabodcrane

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Re: Why didn't Kate McCann answer the questions of the PJ?
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2013, 12:43:07 AM »
Thankyou Anne and John

I wasn't being lazy, I just don't know how to  'copy and paste'  and when I bring anything from another site I have to copy it in long-hand and then re-type it here

...  which is a bit wearysome at this time of night

I just don't know how to  'copy and paste'

 


Oh dear, Jesus wept

Why so nasty registrar ?

I am not computer literate  ...  I do not spend my life clicking away  at a key board, and that is the truth