At what time were the police called after Madeleine's disappearance?

[Admin]

There is no way of knowing for sure if this was the first call to police.  Anyone could have made a 112 call from a mobile telephone.

[AnneGuedes]

There is evidence that the McCanns thought the police had been contacted about 25 minutes before they actually were

If the McCanns admit they thought the police had been contacted about half an hour before the police was actually contacted, if they read the files, why don't they reckon that the police arrived in a very decent delay ?

[Admin]

By their own evidence the police admit that they didn't treat the first call as urgent.

[AnneGuedes]

There is no way of knowing for sure if this was the first call to police.  Anyone could have made a 112 call from a mobile telephone.

Anyone could, that's true, but nobody did, unfortunately, because all were well equipped and could have lend their cellphones to the Tapas restaurant employees, asking to call the emergency service.

[AnneGuedes]

By their own evidence the police admit that they didn't treat the first call as urgent.

I asked you a link to that evidence... And sent the statement of one patrolling officer that shows it's not true.

[registrar]

I clearly need a holiday

[Admin]

By their own evidence the police admit that they didn't treat the first call as urgent.

I asked you a link to that evidence... And sent the statement of one patrolling officer that shows it's not true.

With pleasure...I will remind you of GNR Chief officer Roque's statement Anne.

As regards the facts on the night of 3rd May, when he was on patrol with his colleague Costa in Odiaxere, he received a radio communication from the central telling him to go to P da L, specifically to the reception of OC resort where the father of a girl who had disappeared was. When they were on their way to this place and had reached the zone of Valverde he received another communication saying that this was a very young girl and that her father had called again. They continued on their way, now with urgency, heading for the main reception of the resort.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOSE_ROQUE.htm


In English that means they weren't in a hurry until they got yet another call.

[Admin]

Very interesting that Officer Roque added...

He did not feel that this was an abduction, although this was the line indicated by the father.

Now why would that be?

[AnneGuedes]

By their own evidence the police admit that they didn't treat the first call as urgent.

I asked you a link to that evidence... And sent the statement of one patrolling officer that shows it's not true.

With pleasure...I will remind you of GNR Chief officer Roque's statement Anne.

As regards the facts on the night of 3rd May, when he was on patrol with his colleague Costa in Odiaxere, he received a radio communication from the central telling him to go to P da L, specifically to the reception of OC resort where the father of a girl who had disappeared was. When they were on their way to this place and had reached the zone of Valverde he received another communication saying that this was a very young girl and that her father had called again. They continued on their way, now with urgency, heading for the main reception of the resort.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOSE_ROQUE.htm


In English that means they weren't in a hurry until they got thyet another call.

The statement I sent was made on the 7th of May by the officer Nelson Roque Costa
The patrol of which he took part, and now as a witness, went immediately to the principal reception of the aforementioned establishment, where there was encountered the father of the missing child
The statement you're sending was made in October by the same officer Nelson Roque. Costa
When they were on their way to this place and in the Valverde area, they received a new communication, informing them that this was a very young child and that her father had called again. They continued on their way, now with urgency, heading for the main reception of the resort.
First statements are always more accurate, as you know. Besides the "urgency" of this second statement betrays that the officers were more worried than after the first call, as anyone would be.
I followed this route in my old Corsa and it took me more time (of course it was the first time for me, not for the GNR).

[Angelo222]

It is noteworthy that the statement by Roque and that by Coasta are almost identical to begin with evidencing the fact that they colluded in making their statements to the PJ.  Naughty cops.   

[Mrs. B]

The patrol of which he took part, and now as a witness, went immediately to the principal reception of the aforementioned establishment

So, when they finally arrived at the OC they went STRAIGHT to reception. i.e. they didn't go anywhere else, didn't stop to have a quick beer in the tapas bar or visit the little boys' room or anything, no, they went to the reception. That's all it means.

And we know that they didn't treat the matter as urgent because of the following:

He added (the receptionist) that he had phoned the GNR post several times and that he had been told that they would arrive when they could but that they were investigating a theft in Odiaxere.

[Angelo222]

They probably thought that the missing girl had run off and hid somewhere in the resort grounds being more or less what the receptionist said to Matthew when he initially approached the main desk for help. This was something new to Ocean Club and something I personally feel they would rather not have happened to them.

Did everyone notice the comment by the police officers about the involvement of the British envoy and Sky News?  What the hell!!! ???

[sadie]

Hang on a bit.  Somewhere I thought that I had read that they were in Oxiadere when the call came in <<< but I am not sure of that.


Oxiadere is just 6 miles away from PdL, crow flies.  Am I right that they claim they got the call when they were at Oxiadere?  Valdeverte is 20 miles, crow flies, in the opposite direction


If so, why did they chose to drive, not to PdL but 20 miles in the opposite direction  to Valdeverte?


[Both distances considerably longer by road, probably 25 miles each way ... a total of about 50 miles ... and they are not motorways either}



To drive 25 miles in the wrong direction then 25 miles back to PdL, would take a tadge longer than 20 minutes.


Have I misunderstiid the situation or is some one telling porkies?.


Was the call received much earlier than is claimed by the GNR?


What's going on here?    ... or have I missed something?   If I have, pls tell me.




John, if I am right, about this scenario, is there any chance that we can have a GE image showing these places, please?  Might be good to have the image, anyhow, if it is not too much trouble. 
Cheers sadie x

[Mrs. B]

They probably thought that the missing girl had run off and hid somewhere in the resort grounds being more or less what the receptionist said to Matthew when he initially approached the main desk for help. This was something new to Ocean Club and something I personally feel they would rather not have happened to them.

Did everyone notice the comment by the police officers about the involvement of the British envoy and Sky News?  What the hell!!! ???

I saw the mention of the Consulate Staff in Batista's statement ("He did not see the fridge" - he mentions out of the blue...hmmm) but who mentioned Sky News?

Nelson Costa mentioned both the Embassy and Sky News here on 17 Oct 2007

[John]

Like a lot of towns and villages the name is repeated. The GNR were in the Odiaxere (depicted A on map) when they received the first call and in the Vila Valverde area (depicted B on map) when they received the second one, ten minutes later.

Ocean Club depicted C on map.