Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.

[ferryman]

I always thought this was a quite brilliant article about Robert Murat:

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic2465.html

[Redblossom]

He must have believed them, he put both in his book, 12 months later.

Well what can I say DCI, LOL

People  who write books talk about all kinds of stuff, doesnt mean they BELIEVE them all, I think you are confused

Think about a documentary maker, does he/she believe that everything in the documentary is true? of course not, they are just relaying facts and stories involved, the fact that someone rang in to the Pj and said x y z about mr murat and Mr Amaral talking about it doea  NOT meanMr Amaral believed it was true

[DCI]

He must have believed them, he put both in his book, 12 months later.

Well what can I say DCI, LOL

People  who write books talk about all kinds of stuff, doesnt mean they BELIEVE them all, I think you are confused

Think about a documentary maker, does he/she believe that everything in the documentary is true? of course not, they are just relaying facts and stories involved, the fact that someone rang in to the Pj and said x y z about mr murat and Mr Amaral talking about it doea  NOT meanMr Amaral believed it was true

Confused 

He libelled Murat, in publishing that filth, about him. Don't forget the title of his book 

[icabodcrane]

Seems Lori Campbell wasn't the only one though, is she?

Don't forget the disgusting things Amaral wrote in his book, about Murat, which he received in 2007, from an old friend of Murats.

And this.

02-Processos Volume II  PJ Record 8th May 2007

At about 20.00 the police received a phone call from a number that could not be identified, from a person with a female voice speaking in correct Portuguese, who did not want to be identified for reasons of safety. She refers to an individual who abducted Madeleine, who knows how to keep quiet and is quite close to the police. When asked who she was referring to she said it was an individual who resides in Praia da Luz, who has an English mother, who speaks this language very well, who was near the area since the disappearance of the little girl, supposedly with the intention of helping the investigation. She said this man was called Robert and that he used to consult Internet chats of a pretty heavy sexual nature. He would also use Internet for contacts with different acquaintances he had in other countries, especially in the UK. She said most of the mails he sent were encrypted due to the monitoring of the kind of content they possessed. This is why she wanted to alert the authorities about the characteristics of this man, who, in her opinion, could have sexual motives and opportunity, knowing the area perfectly for committing or collaborating in this type of crime.

That sounds a bit alarming !

I suppose it must have been investigated and dismissed though,  given that the Prosecutor found no evidence that he was involved in any crime

It's background information of no direct relevance to the matter under investigation, similar to the stuff about David Payne ...

The Social worker's anonymous contact with the police you mean  ?  ...  yes,  I agree, there is a similarity

[Redblossom]

DCI of course he didnt libel Murat anymore than Murat  libelled  himself when he spoke of people who had talked rubbish of him

He recounted the history of the investigation with all its warts that is all

I dont  have to remember anything about the book title, the appeal court decided the book was fine as a recount of the investigation

[Chinagirl]

I know that the McCanns were made Arguidos largely because of the dog evidence,  but why was Murat held in suspiscion by the police ?

There was no"dog evidence;" they simply indicated places where evidence might be found.

[Redblossom]

I know that the McCanns were made Arguidos largely because of the dog evidence,  but why was Murat held in suspiscion by the police ?

There was no"dog evidence;" they simply indicated places where evidence might be found.

Yes  carry on telling yourself that cg
What youre sayng is only *technically* right you know

What evidence is this that *might be found* after a cadaver dog has alerted? tell me,because it certainly wasnt finding remains, please dont say keela dog alerts to blood as you would say well, there was no cadaver scent after all as eddie also alerts to blood, and no human body was in 5a, so what evidence would eddie be pointing to? There is a reason a cadaver dog is used in cases and it is NOT because it can smell  blood, if that were the case, the blood dog would be redundant, the dog rubix cube is getting closer to be solved

And there is no scientific testing for cadaver scent thats why dogs are used, the FSS have even said this, that Mr Grimes dogs findings are taken as given

[Chinagirl]

I think you should careully read the many threads on this board about the dogs where Debunker and others have been at pains to explain the dog indications - and you should read whatthe handler, Grime himself, had to say.

[John]

To be fair to the Press on the ground were only repeating what they were being told by the tapas-7.  They were calling Murat a liar and saying he was seen near the apartment that night and why doesn't he come clean etc etc...

You only need to read O'Briens rogatory to get a favour of what was being talked about.

[Victoria]

To be fair the Press on the ground were only repeating what they were being told by the tapas-7.  They were calling Murat a liar and saying he was seen near the apartment that night and why doesn't he come clean etc etc...

You only need to read O'Briens rogatory to get a favour of what was being talked about.

Can you really not see the difference between a statement to police and a story published in a national newspaper?

[Carana]

To be fair the Press on the ground were only repeating what they were being told by the tapas-7.  They were calling Murat a liar and saying he was seen near the apartment that night and why doesn't he come clean etc etc...

You only need to read O'Briens rogatory to get a favour of what was being talked about.

Would Amaral come into this category?

[Eleanor]

To be fair the Press on the ground were only repeating what they were being told by the tapas-7.  They were calling Murat a liar and saying he was seen near the apartment that night and why doesn't he come clean etc etc...

You only need to read O'Briens rogatory to get a favour of what was being talked about.

And you only need to read what else was said about Robert Murat, none of which had anything to do with The Tapas Seven.

And Witness Statements are always privileged.  Or didn't you know that?

[John]

Can you really not see the difference between a statement to police and a story published in a national newspaper?

It is very obvious that the Press were being fed this information by the tapas-7.  They did Murat no favours whatsoever but then he will know this.

[Carana]

To be fair the Press on the ground were only repeating what they were being told by the tapas-7.  They were calling Murat a liar and saying he was seen near the apartment that night and why doesn't he come clean etc etc...

You only need to read O'Briens rogatory to get a favour of what was being talked about.

I don't agree, John. The allegations against Murat were horrendous.

And, in a different situation, such long-term damaging allegations could have been about you, which is why I don't understand your stance.

[jassi]

Presumably, if they were libelous,  they shouldn't be repeated or discussed.