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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #255 on: April 17, 2016, 08:17:40 AM »
Grime said...in his opinion the alerts may suggest cadaver odour...that does not seem very certain to me.

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #256 on: April 17, 2016, 08:30:30 AM »
Grime said...in his opinion the alerts may suggest cadaver odour...that does not seem very certain to me.

What else did the 'alerts' suggest then ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #257 on: April 17, 2016, 08:38:54 AM »
What else did the 'alerts' suggest then ?

This is what grime said...

The dogs' alerts are to be considered as an area of interest or possible testing.

as I have repeatedly said the dogs alert show where to look for evidence and are not evidence in themselves...not even circumsatntial.

Harrison said no inference can be drawn from the alerts...yet many here and elsewhere do ...which shows they do not understand the alerts


stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #258 on: April 17, 2016, 08:44:57 AM »
This is what grime said...

The dogs' alerts are to be considered as an area of interest or possible testing.

as I have repeatedly said the dogs alert show where to look for evidence and are not evidence in themselves...not even circumsatntial.

Harrison said no inference can be drawn from the alerts...yet many here and elsewhere do ...which shows they do not understand the alerts

Yet Redwood stated Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive, and whilst still coordinating the investigation dogs were used and indicated nothing elsewhere.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #259 on: April 17, 2016, 08:45:04 AM »
What about the Gilroy case in Edinburgh?
No body has ever been recovered.
But we've certainly heard about the alerts by a South Yorkshire cadaver dog called Buster.
And the successful conviction.

The evidence which led to his prosecution and conviction was compelling ... his appeal against conviction failed.

As stand alone evidence the alerts of the cadaver dog would never have been presented in court ... that was all the justification they had in Portugal for making the McCanns arguidos, that and Piava's alleged recollections of a dream.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #260 on: April 17, 2016, 08:51:26 AM »
Yet Redwood stated Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive, and whilst still coordinating the investigation dogs were used and indicated nothing elsewhere.

Redwood doesn't need the dogs to think maddie may have died in the apartment...cadaver dogs are only used when death has already been suspected...that is obvious

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #261 on: April 17, 2016, 08:53:22 AM »
Redwood doesn't need the dogs to think maddie may have died in the apartment...cadaver dogs are only used when death has already been suspected...that is obvious

Yet clearly Redwood and co., have never considered anything but abduction despite the lack of evidence to back it up.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #262 on: April 17, 2016, 09:00:30 AM »
Yet clearly Redwood and co., have never considered anything but abduction despite the lack of evidence to back it up.

That is not a fact...merely your opinion..and you are totally wrong imo

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #263 on: April 17, 2016, 09:03:45 AM »
That is not a fact...merely your opinion..and you are totally wrong imo

So demonstrate where Redwood and his team, or since his departure Wall, have considered anything but abduction.

From the onset, it was a 1 sided investigation and on that basis, totally worthless.

IMO of course.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #264 on: April 17, 2016, 09:09:11 AM »
So demonstrate where Redwood and his team, or since his departure Wall, have considered anything but abduction.

From the onset, it was a 1 sided investigation and on that basis, totally worthless.

IMO of course.

you demonstrate that Redwood has not interviewed the McCanns...you cannot..its all your opinion. We don't know what was considered. All just your opinion...my opinion is that he looked at all the facts ...decided the McCanns were not involved which makes abduction odds on...that's my opinion

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #265 on: April 17, 2016, 09:25:11 AM »
you demonstrate that Redwood has not interviewed the McCanns...you cannot..its all your opinion. We don't know what was considered. All just your opinion...my opinion is that he looked at all the facts ...decided the McCanns were not involved which makes abduction odds on...that's my opinion

So CITE  when Redwood or any member of Operation Grange interviewed the mccanns or associates.

Looking at the facts, means investigating all scenarios, and that they clearly have not done.

It was a ONE SIDED INVESTIGATION from the start, as I predicted,  and likewise , as I predicted, has found nothing, because there is nothing to find as regards abduction.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #266 on: April 17, 2016, 09:40:10 AM »
So CITE  when Redwood or any member of Operation Grange interviewed the mccanns or associates.

Looking at the facts, means investigating all scenarios, and that they clearly have not done.

It was a ONE SIDED INVESTIGATION from the start, as I predicted,  and likewise , as I predicted, has found nothing, because there is nothing to find as regards abduction.

you are now totally off topic and posting your opinion as fact...predictable

stephen25000

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Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #267 on: April 17, 2016, 09:46:03 AM »
you are now totally off topic and posting your opinion as fact...predictable

Rubbish.

I asked for a cite, which of course doesn't exist.

The abduction scenario is as dead as a Dodo.

As to predictability, that is what I see in your posts.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #268 on: April 17, 2016, 09:54:04 AM »
Rubbish.

I asked for a cite, which of course doesn't exist.

The abduction scenario is as dead as a Dodo.

As to predictability, that is what I see in your posts.

the fact that there is no cite does not mean the mccanns have not been interviewed. You have been told this many times. You are totally off topic and continue to promote your opinion as fact...that's all it is...your opinion. Unfortunately you cannot see that

Offline Eleanor

Re: Eddie's alert in the garden
« Reply #269 on: April 17, 2016, 09:56:13 AM »

That is quite enough, thank you.  No one knows whether or not The McCanns were interviewed by Scotland Yard.

But this is just going round and round in ever decreasing, Off Topic circles.