Author Topic: The disappearance of Joana Cipriano and why was she not reported missing sooner?  (Read 67147 times)

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Offline faithlilly

Amaral's conviction stays exactly where it is, he lied about the fall down the stairs, this was established by a court of law in Portugal, not once, but twice.

The second time was simply repeating the verdict of the first court. The only thing the second court established was that Cipriano lied.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?


Offline Mrs. B

And again

Gonçalo Amaral was convicted for simple false statement, since the version of the alleged fall on the stairs of Leonor Cipriano wasn't proved. Thus, the court considered that Amaral had lied, in order to cover the actions of his unknown colleagues.

With reference to Cipriano's perjury case:

That court considered the aggressions proven even though the identity of the attackers was never established.

Both articles are listed here:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id248.html

Little bit early isn't it?

Offline faithlilly

Amaral lied about Leonors fall down stairs and was convicted .  This conviction was was verified twice in the Courts.

Amaral was proven a liar.

He signed off a report, written by him or ...  at his bidding ... so did he lie about it's veracity in court?

Cipriano is a proven liar. She has a conviction for perjury to prove it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Redblossom

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no need.  That is what his case was about

So no back up for your assertion

And no thats not what the case was about
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 06:58:29 PM by Redblossom »

Offline Mrs. B

Amaral has a conviction of perjury against him, lost his appeal to have it overturned too.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/advogado-de-leonor-cipriano-vai-processar-estado

Redblossom

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Amaral has a conviction of perjury against him, lost his appeal to have it overturned too.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/advogado-de-leonor-cipriano-vai-processar-estado
we know that, so?

Offline faithlilly

And again

Gonçalo Amaral was convicted for simple false statement, since the version of the alleged fall on the stairs of Leonor Cipriano wasn't proved. Thus, the court considered that Amaral had lied, in order to cover the actions of his unknown colleagues.

With reference to Cipriano's perjury case:

That court considered the aggressions proven even though the identity of the attackers was never established.

Both articles are listed here:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id248.html

Little bit early isn't it?

Context is everything Mrs B. Below is the quote in context :

'The contradictory statements about the aggressions of which she was a target were made between 2008 and 2009, at the time of the trial1 of the inspectors who investigated the "Joana Case", which resulted in the condemnation of two of the five defendants in that process.

That court considered the aggressions proven even though the identity of the attackers was never established.'

The court that the inspectors were tried at considered the aggression proven ie not the court where Cipriano's perjury was established.

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Amaral has a conviction of perjury against him, lost his appeal to have it overturned too.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/advogado-de-leonor-cipriano-vai-processar-estado

The appeal took place before Cipriano's perjury conviction.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Angelo222

It's great to be back again and to see we are all in such good spirits at last.  I think some members should have a look at the following video.   You don't even need to understand Portuguese.  @)(++(*

« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 07:23:56 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline faithlilly

It's great to be back again and to see we are all in such good spirits at last.  I think some members should have a look at the following video.   You don't even need to understand Portuguese.  @)(++(*

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBMvYsqT_U&feature=youtube_gdata_player [/youtube]

Thank you Angelo. Very interesting.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

That video was uploaded in 2008. The appeal verdict was in 2011 - looks like the court took no notice of the supposedly "fake" photos.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/ultima-hora/advogado-de-leonor-cipriano-vai-processar-estado

Redblossom

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It's great to be back again and to see we are all in such good spirits at last.  I think some members should have a look at the following video.   You don't even need to understand Portuguese.  @)(++(*

[youtube]  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBMvYsqT_U&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/youtube]

I posted the same video yesterday and some rabid people said, oh its a video by xklmation, joana morais, which makes it unsound...only she only uploaded it she didnt MAKE IT
 @)(++(*J

icabodcrane

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Thank you Angelo. Very interesting.

So who faked the photos  ? 

Offline faithlilly

I posted the same video yesterday and some rabid people said, oh its a video by xklmation, joana morais, which makes it unsound...only she only uploaded it she didnt MAKE IT
 @)(++(*J

Yet we have had nothing but links to Xclamation's site today by the supporters. They are a rather fickle bunch.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?