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debunker

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what will happen.

It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)

What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 02:11:26 PM »
what will happen.

It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)

What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.


Quoting the letter of the law, and abiding by it, are entirely different in Portugal, it seems.

I hope that is possible, not sure though.

Shame they are happy to keep taking bail outs, but whats it being spent on?

They would save an absolute fortune, if they got their court cases done in less than 10 years. Stopped wasting money on appeals for god knows how long.
Then they wonder why corruption, is rife.
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Offline Carana

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 02:26:16 PM »
what will happen.

It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)

What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.


I sincerely hope not.

In my opinion, it would:

- further exacerbate nationalistic tensions in public opinion;

- make unnecessary waves in a fragile economy;

- be of little use, anyway, in terms of the legal issues involved;

- put added pressure on other areas in which cooperation and mutual confidence are required: potential other missing people, terrorist suspects, drug rings, paedo rings, whatever the need for constructive cooperation may be.

The tabloids should just let them get on with working out whatever solution is viable.


And shut up.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 02:29:34 PM by Carana »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 02:48:32 PM »
Did Amaral really say it only needs a stamp on a letter from the McCanns to open the case?

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 02:52:31 PM »
what will happen.

It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)

What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.


I sincerely hope not.

In my opinion, it would:

- further exacerbate nationalistic tensions in public opinion;

- make unnecessary waves in a fragile economy;

- be of little use, anyway, in terms of the legal issues involved;

- put added pressure on other areas in which cooperation and mutual confidence are required: potential other missing people, terrorist suspects, drug rings, paedo rings, whatever the need for constructive cooperation may be.

The tabloids should just let them get on with working out whatever solution is viable.


And shut up.

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Offline faithlilly

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 02:55:29 PM »
what will happen.

It is one thing quoting the letter of the law, it is another refusing to further investigate the potential crime. (Murder/missing person enquiries are never closed in England.)

What if the tabloids turn on Portugal and start a campaign to force Portugal to re-open.


Quoting the letter of the law, and abiding by it, are entirely different in Portugal, it seems.

I hope that is possible, not sure though.

Shame they are happy to keep taking bail outs, but whats it being spent on?

They would save an absolute fortune, if they got their court cases done in less than 10 years. Stopped wasting money on appeals for god knows how long.
Then they wonder why corruption, is rife.

They'd also save a fortune if parents holidaying in their country were more careful with the safety of their children.
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Offline Joanne

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 02:59:03 PM »
I wonder if thats why the police initially acted as they did, I wonder how many times per season they get alled out to 'lost' children, only to find them a short timr later.

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 08:24:08 PM »
If  the SY *potential leads already in the files*  are ones eliminated by police  originally why should  they reopen the case  to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad

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« Last Edit: May 18, 2013, 08:26:37 PM by Redblossom »

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2013, 11:20:31 PM »
If  the SY *potential leads already in the files*  are ones eliminated by police  originally why should  they reopen the case  to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad

i used to respect the Met
Fluff, fluff.  How do you know that Red?   Cos the PT detectives didn't find things in the files and elsewhere, doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't other things; it is possible to miss things, especially when your boss isn't interested cos he "solved" the case the day after the event !

And 5 million quid.  Is that the correct figure?  Have you got that right?



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Redblossom

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2013, 02:36:03 PM »
If  the SY *potential leads already in the files*  are ones eliminated by police  originally why should  they reopen the case  to follow them up again? Fluff fluff, is that all they could come up with after two years and 5 m quid? Sad

i used to respect the Met
Fluff, fluff.  How do you know that Red?   Cos the PT detectives didn't find things in the files and elsewhere, doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't other things; it is possible to miss things, especially when your boss isn't interested cos he "solved" the case the day after the event !

And 5 million quid.  Is that the correct figure?  Have you got that right?



[BTW, were you on Digital Spy at one time?  In the early days?  Seem to recognise your style.  Very like someone on MccannExposure too.   Did we meet at Bennetts trial?]

Fluff, because the statements are fluff

4.5m is the reported amount a few weeks ago, as for your last paragraph, your imagination running away with you there, as I have no connection with any of that

Offline sadie

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2013, 02:43:35 PM »
Ok, fair does.


Just cant quite understand why you have spent several weeks trying to "get me", if we dont know each other.


Well I saw 2 million banded about recently but I think it is more than 3 millions tbh




Whose statements are fluff, Red?

Redblossom

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2013, 03:02:54 PM »
Ok, fair does.


Just cant quite understand why you have spent several weeks trying to "get me", if we dont know each other.


Well I saw 2 million banded about recently but I think it is more than 3 millions tbh






Whose statements are fluff, Red?

Not trying to *get you* at all

Dont take challenges or criticisms personally Sadie

The  4.5m figure is definitely the latest one

Fluff is things like this, obviously, the detective may just have been making general comments and keeping real information confidential



"There is more than a handful of people of interest which could be explored further if only to be eliminated.

"The key things are to investigate the case and our work is happening to support the Portuguese."

Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.

It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.




AnneGuedes

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2013, 03:09:37 PM »

Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material.

It was "perfectly probable" that information which could identify the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance was already within the Portuguese files, Campbell said.
How did they eliminate about 150 ? Interviewing them because they were on UK soil and nobody would, in fact, protest ? Or thanks to HOLMES ? Or thanks to hypothetical deduction?
I understand the last sentence like a progress. The truth isn't "out there".

Offline sadie

Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2013, 03:14:24 PM »
Red at one time you were definitely hounding me.  Every time I opened my mouth you and was it ?Stephen? were there immediately to smack me one.  I could understand Stephen cos he had made such a fool of himself on Bigfooty as he constantly demanded of me "how did Leonor know she was kneeling on ash trays?".  Jeez! 8)-))).  He was his own worst enemy and i did nothing to stop it.


Anyway, lets get over it and shake hands.  OK?


Let's try and get on and start all over again.   Shall we?8((()*/

Redblossom

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Re: If Portugal plays difficult over re-opening the Mccann case...
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2013, 03:17:29 PM »
Yes Sadie, dont worry about it
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