Why did THE TAPAS 7 ALL lock their back doors but the Mccanns left theirs open

[Redblossom]

Sorry no, leaving the kids at risk to make it quicker for them to check? Are you serious?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing Redblossom.  The McCanns did not think they were leaving their children at risk - that's the whole point.

Do you honestly think that the McCanns were the ONLY people on holiday that night to leave a door unlocked - either by accident or design?   I very much doubt it.

Why not stick to the OP and then feel free to give links to other parents on hols who left their kids alone and also left  the doors unlocked, cheers

[AnneGuedes]

There is a very strong and claimed for years thesis that all doors and windows were locked. Something dreadful happened and neglect was a second worse.

[registrar]

There is a very strong and claimed for years thesis that all doors and windows were locked. Something dreadful happened and neglect was a second worse.

come again please - none of the above makes sense

[AnneGuedes]

Some just don't believe that responsible and educated parents could have left their kids in a strange and unlocked place (consider that the 3 other couples did lock). Then why would they pretend the place wasn't all locked ?

[registrar]

Some just don't believe that responsible and educated parents could have left their kids in a strange and unlocked place (consider that the 3 other couples did lock). Then why would they pretend the place wasn't all locked ?

Now that is closer to what I've been rabitting about

WHY on earth did the McCanns themselves exclaim the joint was unlocked?

WHY was that an issue for them to raise - when they could have simply said 'Oh maybe we forgot to lock it' - (holiday/couple of glasses of vino) END of

They made the unlocked apt. an issue - and I just wonder why

(I have a theory - but got myself chucked off various forums before for it - so in the interest of comfort - I'll wait to see whether someone else chimes in)
   

[Benice]

Sorry no, leaving the kids at risk to make it quicker for them to check? Are you serious?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing Redblossom.  The McCanns did not think they were leaving their children at risk - that's the whole point.

Do you honestly think that the McCanns were the ONLY people on holiday that night to leave a door unlocked - either by accident or design?   I very much doubt it.

Why not stick to the OP and then feel free to give links to other parents on hols who left their kids alone and also left  the doors unlocked, cheers

I've already answered the OP.   If you want to believe that the McCanns were the only parents on the planet who left their holiday apartment/flat/caravan/hotel door unlocked either accidentally or on purpose when they went out then that's your prerogative.      IMO the only difference between them all  - is that the McCanns were the 'ONE' couple 'in a 'millions-to-ONE' chance -  who ended up having their child abducted because of it.   The same thing could have happened to any of the others - but it didn't.    There for the grace of god...........



 

[AnneGuedes]

Some just don't believe that responsible and educated parents could have left their kids in a strange and unlocked place (consider that the 3 other couples did lock). Then why would they pretend the place wasn't all locked ?

Now that is closer to what I've been rabitting about

WHY on earth did the McCanns themselves exclaim the joint was unlocked?

WHY was that an issue for them to raise - when they could have simply said 'Oh maybe we forgot to lock it' - (holiday/couple of glasses of vino) END of

They made the unlocked apt. an issue - and I just wonder why

(I have a theory - but got myself chucked off various forums before for it - so in the interest of comfort - I'll wait to see whether someone else chimes in)
 

Theories don't send innocents to jail. What is it ? May be you could open a thread. Those afraid wouldn't read...

[Redblossom]

Sorry no, leaving the kids at risk to make it quicker for them to check? Are you serious?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing Redblossom.  The McCanns did not think they were leaving their children at risk - that's the whole point.

Do you honestly think that the McCanns were the ONLY people on holiday that night to leave a door unlocked - either by accident or design?   I very much doubt it.

Why not stick to the OP and then feel free to give links to other parents on hols who left their kids alone and also left  the doors unlocked, cheers

I've already answered the OP.   If you want to believe that the McCanns were the only parents on the planet who left their holiday apartment/flat/caravan/hotel door unlocked either accidentally or on purpose when they went out then that's your prerogative.      IMO the only difference between them all  - is that the McCanns were the 'ONE' couple 'in a 'millions-to-ONE' chance -  who ended up having their child abducted because of it.   The same thing could have happened to any of the others - but it didn't.    There for the grace of god...........

No you didnt, its nothing to do with millions on the planet or god for that matter, the op question was very specific and

Again why didnt any of the other families leave their back door open for ease of checking?

And again how could ease of checking ever ever override safety, and lets not forget gerry said he never ONCE looked in on the kids, hello? So why go inside instead of listening from outside? A secure apartmenf

[Redblossom]

Well if they don't lock and unlock from the outside it would mean walking further and therefore take longer to gain access to the apartment wouldn't it?  So, if the flat was on fire they could get in a few seconds earlier.  I hope you don't find this answer too bemusing or provocative.

So? That doesnt answer my op

Now your post is confusing rather than bemusing there is no question that the mccanns ever used a key to enter the flat via the patio doors, there wa no outside key access to them, sheesh, so, answer the query, why did the mccanns leave their flat open? Whilst others who were also checking every half hour didnt

Quite a deafening silence in general apart from the silly posts

i imagne this thread to go down like a lead balloon as its unhelpful nd no mccannite can stub this hole despite iw forum discussion being full of around 80 per cent mccannites, interesting
 

As I'm neither a McCann nor one of their friends how do you expect me to answer your question?  I've offered a sensible, logical reason for the McCanns NOT locking the patio door, beyond that I can't help you, nor I suspect can anyone else.

there was no sensible or logical reason that i saw especially in the context of the op, sorry to disagree

Question remains why they left the door open and seeing as mrs mccann says according to her mates she left it open on thursdsy to go find her in case she woke up agaih like last wed night makes a mockery of her book input that a three yr old couldnt have opened curtains patio door and gate

Well apart  from suggesting by kate that thats the ONLY night they left it open! LOL couldnt make it up

[AnneGuedes]

Madeleine could have opened the French window rather easily, but I don't think she would have gone down those dark tricky stairs.

[Redblossom]

Madeleine could have opened the French window rather easily, but I don't think she would have gone down those dark tricky stairs.

Oh dont discount what kids will do if they want to get from a to b, my own  4 yr old navigated 200 plus stone steps to the beach whilst my back was turned one summer!

[AnneGuedes]

Madeleine could have opened the French window rather easily, but I don't think she would have gone down those dark tricky stairs.

Oh dont discount what kids will do if they want to get from a to b, my own  4 yr old navigated 200 plus stone steps to the beach whilst my back was turned one summer!

Father Seddon said Madeleine was adventurous. But she fell on the plane stairs.

[Redblossom]

Madeleine could have opened the French window rather easily, but I don't think she would have gone down those dark tricky stairs.

Oh dont discount what kids will do if they want to get from a to b, my own  4 yr old navigated 200 plus stone steps to the beach whilst my back was turned one summer!

Father Seddon said Madeleine was adventurous. But she fell on the plane stairs.

That was an accident anyway whats with all these priests pontificating and commenting  like they know anything, blah blah, unrequired useless people, then we have father bleeding hubbard, telling the world this that andthe other when he has no clue in any way shape or form about events which happened before  he even stuck his pious pontificating guilt faced ridden  foot in the country,  nite nite

[registrar]

Madeleine could have opened the French window rather easily, but I don't think she would have gone down those dark tricky stairs.

Oh dont discount what kids will do if they want to get from a to b, my own  4 yr old navigated 200 plus stone steps to the beach whilst my back was turned one summer!

Father Seddon said Madeleine was adventurous. But she fell on the plane stairs.

That was an accident anyway whats with all these priests pontificating and commenting  like they know anything, blah blah, unrequired useless people, then we have father bleeding hubbard, telling the world this that andthe other when he has no clue in any way shape or form about events which happened before  he even stuck his pious pontificating guilt faced ridden  foot in the country,  nite nite

wow, one vile anti Anglican rant redblossom

would love to hear your views about Islam too

But you would not dare go anywhere near that subject - would you pet?

Hypocrite

 

[sadie]

Red, imo

1) the alleyway was dark and rather creepy to go along at night, especially for women checking

2)  The back of the flats was a dark quiet place to leave a door unlocked and as you correctly say the patio door had no locking  from the outside..  It would have ben vulnerable to burglars.

3) the Mccanns didn't have to go along any dark alleyways, and the rear entrance was well lit by the street lamp on the pavement opposite.  Their rear entrance was basically on the street.  Burglars would have to be crazy to consider going in that way when it was so well lit and overlooked by peeps in  the tapas area.

4) It was by far the most convenient route for the Mccanns.  Their walk to the front door was further than ony of the others.

5)  For the Mccanns the front door wasn't a "nice" route, especially for womeen.  The doorway was deeply recessed, out of sight and it was in pitch blackness.  I feel sure it was reported that the porch light was broken.  Pls correct me if i am wrong

6)  I have a feeling that Matt used the back patio door to his apartment the once, but I haven't checked the rogs so pls correct me if I am wrong.  Certainly on the Mccann reconstruction he appears from the direction of the alleyway.

Hope this sorts it out for you.  there are probably other reasons that i haven't yet picked up upon.