The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

[icabodcrane]

Since the thread is about cuddle cat, and the dog's alert to it, may I ask if there is any truth to the claim that Kate McCann washed the toy at some point    (  or is that a myth ? ) 

If it is true, does anyone know when this washing is claimed to have happened ?

According to KMs  diaries printed in the NOTW it was on 12 July

What's the big deal about Kate washing cuddle cat?

I was just wondering if the toy had been washed before the dog alerted to it

I assume that washing an item, whilst not eliminating cadaver scent altogether, would, perhaps,  make the scent a little less discernable   ...   would it  ?   (  I'm no expert on this subject ) 

[AnneGuedes]

How many times was it washed ? Once was enough to eliminate any scent of Madeleine. So why not wash the toy regularly for hygienic reasons afterwards ?

[Benice]

oh and FM your response is awaited here too


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1617.msg48319#new

Anne I would never have washed it or let it be played with by others and get dirty, covered in sun lotion

Kate obviously gained comfort by having Cuddlecat with her.  I can understand that.

However, even after 6 years  - she still keeps Madeleine's bedroom the same as it was.   So - same principle as yours Redblossom - but expressed in a different way.

[Mrs. B]

oh and FM your response is awaited here too


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1617.msg48319#new

Anne I would never have washed it or let it be played with by others and get dirty, covered in sun lotion

Kate obviously gained comfort by having Cuddlecat with her.  I can understand that.

However, even after 6 years  - she still keeps Madeleine's bedroom the same as it was.   So - same principle as yours Redblossom - but expressed in a different way.

Yes, though it was another major mistake to let her do that, the toy, along with the other possible evidence should have been bagged & taken away immediately by police, for forensic examination.

[John]

This thread is well worth a read for anyone who has never seen how Eddie failed to react to Cuddle Cat.


The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

This video contains footage recorded inside the Vista Mar Villa, Rua das Flores, in which the McCanns lived from 02 July - 09 September 2007. This video was recorded on 02 August 2007.



Madeleine McCann's Cuddle Cat toy.

Before making any comment about this event lets have another look at the actual video.

Video: > Eddie in McCann's rented villa.

[pathfinder73]

Please tell me how many times CC was washed? I think that by grabbing CC and tossing him onto the floor Eddie had first marked the toy according to Grime. Not a 100% bark alert but he was interested in it because he grabbed it out of the bin.

[AnneGuedes]

Please tell me how many times CC was washed? I think that by grabbing CC and tossing him onto the floor Eddie had first marked the toy according to Grime. Not a 100% bark alert but he was interested in it because he grabbed it out of the bin.

The odorant VOCs are more dense and easier to pick up in the air of a closet.

[Redblossom]

The odorant VOCs are more dense and easier to pick up in the air of a closet.

That is what I thought too...Eddie made a gruffing sound when he pulled CC out of that box...being in the open air for months and carried around  and also washed may have dissipated any scent, IF it was there.....obviously


Mr Grime must have had a reason to do the second test with it hidden....in the cupboard....fact remains its in his report....that the dog reacted to it...he was the handler, he will know what his dog does and doesnt do cant or cant do.... If  want to think he made it all up, well, thats their view.....

[ferryman]

Why did Grime indicate that the toy had been sent for forensic analysis when it never was.

Do we know?

[AnneGuedes]

That is what I thought too...Eddie made a gruffing sound when he pulled CC out of that box...being in the open air for months and carried around  and also washed may have dissipated any scent, IF it was there.....obviously


Mr Grime must have had a reason to do the second test with it hidden....in the cupboard....fact remains its in his report....that the dog reacted to it...he was the handler, he will know what his dog does and doesnt do cant or cant do.... If  want to think he made it all up, well, thats their view.....

I do agree plainly with that. We're no handlers, we know almost nothing, I trust Mr Grime and Mr Harrison easily because I can't find a motive for them to cheat the PJ, and I see that nobody else finds..

[AnneGuedes]

Why did Grime indicate that the toy had been sent for forensic analysis when it never was.

Do we know?

Do we know that the toy was never sent to the Lx laboratory ?
Don't forget, please, the living among dead.

[Redblossom]

Why did Grime indicate that the toy had been sent for forensic analysis when it never was.

Do we know?

You have been answered here post 93 seeing as youre spamming the threads with it
Eta forgot the link


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1513.msg112292#msg112292

[colombosstogey]

There are a few more sequences pointed out here:

http://madeleinemccannthetruth.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/cuddle-cat/

I can't do an accurate frame-by-frame freeze. If anyone else can, once Eddie knocks over the bin the CC on it, and loses interest, the camera's view seems to be blocked by the armchair, then CC appears in the middle of the living-room floor.

Out of curiosity, was this continuous filming, or was there a cut between CC being knocked over and then reappearing in the middle of the floor?

Yes well we wernt there were we, and its easy to cut frames out.

Martin Grimes is not in it to hang the McCanns.

The dog is NOT trained to take a toy out of a bin. If the dog took the toy out of the bin, it did so because it could recognise something.

The toy had been so well washed.....which is another story isnt it.

I think this thread is POINTLESS like all the others trying to discourage the dogs and Grimes.

[pegasus]

Very interesting thread.
I agree it looks like Eddie is alerting to something on top of the dining area cupboard.
Immediatly before the bark he has just reached up to smell the items halfway along the top surface of that cupboard.
What is the pile immediately in front of his nose in this photo?
(The pile wIth white item on top and other colours beneath).
Is it a pile of paperwork?
Or a pile of folded clothing?
http://i.imgur.com/597EM34.jpg
P.S. you can see the pile better at 5:47 in the video.
P.S what room did the 3 clothing items come from?

[icabodcrane]

We can all agree that this particular dog  ( who was trained to bark when he detected the smell of death  ) was highly esteemed for his successful deployments    ...  can we not  ? 

So, given this dog's historical success,   WHY would his handler  ( equally successful and esteemed in his own right  )  have done anything to jeopardise their hard earned reputations as the best in their field  ? 

You see,  the dog's  (   and his handler's )   excellence did not hinge on  'alerting' ...  from a professional point of view  it did not matter whether he did or not 

All that mattered  was that the dog was  accurate 

What would motivate  Mr Grime into   'cueing'  his excellent and historically accurate dog into making an inaccurate alert   ?

...  what would  he have to gain   ?