The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

[AnneGuedes]

Yesterday, after the daily routine, MADELEINE and the twins were put to bed in their respective beds, and he stresses put to bed, at 7.30 pm.(GM 4 May)

Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went into the bedroom and were put in their beds at around 7.30. (KM 4 May)

Same bed time?

Yes. I feel sorry for Madeleine. The Payne had the youngest in their bedroom, the eldest alone in the other bedroom. And Mrs Webster slept on the livingroom sofa...

[pegasus]

That would mean staging. Why ?
Actually I don't think that Madeleine went to bed on that night.

It may be useful to consider the simple scenario that a child is awakened by a noise, goes to another room, leaving toy on bed.
Now maybe everyone will say no no no a child will take the toy with?

[AnneGuedes]

There's not a single picture of Madeleine with this toy or another one. This little girl wasn't the teddy bear kind.

[drummer]

Anne, how on earth do you know what type of child Madeleine is or what type of toy she likes? I imagine there are hundreds of pictures in the family album of Madeleine with her toys, teddies comforters etc.

[AnneGuedes]

Anne, how on earth do you know what type of child Madeleine is or what type of toy she likes? I imagine there are hundreds of pictures in the family album of Madeleine with her toys, teddies comforters etc.

Imagine then ! I stick to facts : no picture with teddy bear and auntie JK's anecdotes.
Ah, one of the rare things we know she said "be a monster!"

[pegasus]

IMO the toy was not in photos months before, because it was not acquired yet

[ferryman]

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.

True!

But that sequence (of Eddie literally playing with the toy, tossing it in the air etc) has been edited out of videos on line (at least that I know of) by Levy.

We can be sure it's true because Dias recorded the sequence in his written report.

[sadie]

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.

True!

But that sequence (of Eddie literally playing with the toy, tossing it in the air etc) has been edited out of videos on line (at least that I know of) by Levy.

We can be sure it's true because Dias recorded the sequence in his written report.

Watch it Ferryman.  The next thing will be that Dias' recorded report will be minus the sequence.

All sorts of things to do with this case are getting wiped out these days. 
The only way is to keep a hard copy of the full report and keep it somewhere safe.  Maybe screen shots would work? 

It is no good just keeping the web address of anything, because reports and images are being changed and somehow keeping the same web address.   So sometimes when you enter the web address ... the altered version comes up, rather than the original you are refering to.



Spooky and very sinister.

[ferryman]

Watch it Ferryman.  The next thing will be that Dias' recorded report will be minus the sequence.

All sorts of things to do with this case are getting wiped out these days. 
The only way is to keep a hard copy of the full report and keep it somewhere safe.  Maybe screen shots would work? 

It is no good just keeping the web address of anything, because reports and images are being changed and somehow keeping the same web address.   So sometimes when you enter the web address ... the altered version comes up, rather than the original you are refering to.



Spooky and very sinister.

I've just checked and that's  still there, Sadie.

On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Whys didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_11_VOLUMES.htm

The point is frequently (and rightly) raised that the Renault was hired 3 weeks after Madeleine's abduction.

But why stop there?

Of 10 vehicles in the line-up, 7 were owned or driven by people never arguidos or suspects in the investigation

Why?

The inspection at the villa.

Why?

Madeleine never lived there.

And the inspection following at the gym.

Why?

Madeleine certainly never lived there.

So many questions.

So few answers.

[John]

Edde pulls cuddlecat out of the toy box and drags him into the middle of the room.

Plus plenty of photos of the event should the video suddenly disappear.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1619.0


Approx   1.40

[ferryman]

Edde pulls cuddlecat out of the toy box and drags him into the middle of the room.

Plus plenty of photos of the event should the video suddenly disappear.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1619.0


Approx   1.40

The unedited version showed Eddie, literally, playing with the toy: biting it, picking it up and tossing it in the air.

A further question is why the hell any dog attending a crime scene would pick stuff up in its mouth (Eddie!) or trample all over stuff they are tasked to inspect (Eddie and Keela)

Grime himself says in his profile that best practice is to avoid giving a dog direct access to stuff it is tasked to inspect.

Use of the ST 100 is recommended when subject vehicles, property, clothing, premises

are to be forensically protected from contamination by the dog, and for covert

deployment.

Martin Grime.

There was no attempt to protect anything from contamination by the dog ...

[sadie]

The unedited version showed Eddie, literally, playing with the toy: biting it, picking it up and tossing it in the air.

A further question is why the hell any dog attending a crime scene would pick stuff up in its mouth (Eddie!) or trample all over stuff they are tasked to inspect (Eddie and Keela)

Grime himself says in his profile that best practice is to avoid giving a dog direct access to stuff it is tasked to inspect.

Use of the ST 100 is recommended when subject vehicles, property, clothing, premises

are to be forensically protected from contamination by the dog, and for covert

deployment.

Martin Grime.

There was no attempt to protect anything from contamination by the dog ...

I remember the dog throwing cuddlecat up in the air too and generally playing with it.

Looks like it has been wiped out.  I wonder why?

ETA
Have done a search and I can no longer find the uneditted video

So yet again evidence wiped ? 

Sinister, or what?  ..................Hope someone can find the longer video.




If evidence keeps getting altered, Let's hope everyone is aware that it will be possible for any of us to get fitted up for any crime.

In this case the altering always seems to be against The Mccanns

[pegasus]

IMO Eddie's correct villa living area alert was misinterpreted (Eddie's alert was not to the toy) therefore the child woke and walked out of 5A north bedroom into another room leaving the toy behind on the bed.

[ferryman]

IMO Eddie's correct villa living area alert was misinterpreted (Eddie's alert was not to the toy) therefore the child woke and walked out of 5A north bedroom into another room leaving the toy behind on the bed.

'Can you confirm if the signal given regarding the stuffed toy corresponds to a concrete alert of detection of a cadaver, or a mere trick played by the dog''


The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

Martin Grime.

[Benice]

'Can you confirm if the signal given regarding the stuffed toy corresponds to a concrete alert of detection of a cadaver, or a mere trick played by the dog''


The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

Martin Grime.

It seems Grime's request was ignored.  Cuddlecat was packed up with all the other items and taken to the Gym - where it was NOT alerted to and then returned to the McCanns the next day.

The claim in the report that the alert to CC in the villa was later confirmed at an outside venue is false.    IMO Yet another attempt to create and promote 'evidence' against Kate McCann.