The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

[Carana]

It seems Grime's request was ignored.  Cuddlecat was packed up with all the other items and taken to the Gym - where it was NOT alerted to and then returned to the McCanns the next day.

The claim in the report that the alert to CC in the villa was later confirmed at an outside venue is false.    IMO Yet another attempt to create and promote 'evidence' against Kate McCann.

From the other thread:

But it was packed away with the clothing and taken to the Gym - where it was NOT alerted to.

It was returned... but I'm not sure that it actually went to the gym. The boxes of clothes, shoes, bags, etc., did, but there doesn't seem to be any indication about CC, the diaries, bible, etc., were inspected there unless I've missed it. CC could have been sniffed again in the grounds of the villa, I suppose.


 08 Processos Vol VIII Page 2125

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VOLUME VIIIa_Processo_2125


From: Inspector Joao Carlos


TERMS OF DELIVERY

On 3rd August 2007 in Praia da Luz, Gerlad McCann, resident in Rua das Flores 27 appeared before me Joao Carlos and Inspector Freitas according to written dispatch?and delivered the following:

1. One soft toy, made of pink coloured material, make Cuddle Cut with a wooden rosary and a green ribbon.
2. Four boxes containing clothes, shoes, suitcases and travel bags.
3. Two suitcases containing clothes, shoes, suitcases and travel bags.
4. One Bible.
5. Two diaries.
6. One note pad.
7. One pair of rubber gloves.

The present Terms of Delivery were elaborated and will be signed.

Signed

Gerald McCann


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CLOTHES.htm

[Benice]

From the other thread:
It was returned... but I'm not sure that it actually went to the gym. The boxes of clothes, shoes, bags, etc., did, but there doesn't seem to be any indication about CC, the diaries, bible, etc., were inspected there unless I've missed it. CC could have been sniffed again in the grounds of the villa, I suppose.


 08 Processos Vol VIII Page 2125

TRANSLATED BY INES
VOLUME VIIIa_Processo_2125


From: Inspector Joao Carlos


TERMS OF DELIVERY

On 3rd August 2007 in Praia da Luz, Gerlad McCann, resident in Rua das Flores 27 appeared before me Joao Carlos and Inspector Freitas according to written dispatch?and delivered the following:

1. One soft toy, made of pink coloured material, make Cuddle Cut with a wooden rosary and a green ribbon.
2. Four boxes containing clothes, shoes, suitcases and travel bags.
3. Two suitcases containing clothes, shoes, suitcases and travel bags.
4. One Bible.
5. Two diaries.
6. One note pad.
7. One pair of rubber gloves.

The present Terms of Delivery were elaborated and will be signed.

Signed

Gerald McCann


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CLOTHES.htm

I can't think of any reason why all the articles were not taken to the same place Carana - if the purpose of the exercise was to conduct testing by the dogs.

According to Kates book IIRC - all items were returned the following day.  No mention of anything being retained.

Although I'm presuming  it was during this time that the PJ copied her diary. 

[Carana]

I can't think of any reason why all the articles were not taken to the same place Carana - if the purpose of the exercise was to conduct testing by the dogs.

According to Kates book IIRC - all items were returned the following day.  No mention of anything being retained.

Although I'm presuming  it was during this time that the PJ copied her diary.

Yes, the PJ did copy her diary, so some things may have not been opened in the gym or went straight to the PJ station and the whole lot returned together.

[Carana]

IMO Eddie's correct villa living area alert was misinterpreted (Eddie's alert was not to the toy) therefore the child woke and walked out of 5A north bedroom into another room leaving the toy behind on the bed.

I have no idea whether he alerted to the toy or not. I find it possible (as the PJ analysis team were also wondering), that he may have simply initially played with it in puppy mode, then was made to concentrate. However, even then, he alerted just after sniffing the top of the buffet and not when he'd been sniffing around the cupboard in which it was hidden before that.

Even if he did eventually alert to CC, IMO there's a perfectly feasible explanation: Kate had been carrying it around with her every day and had only washed it a few days before. It might have smelled of washing products to humans, but there may well have been a residual scent of decomposing sweat and skin cells in the permeable toy that might have triggered Eddie's response when commanded to concentrate. To the dog, it could easily still have been a residual scent of human decomp.

[ferryman]

I have no idea whether he alerted to the toy or not. I find it possible (as the PJ analysis team were also wondering), that he may have simply initially played with it in puppy mode, then was made to concentrate. However, even then, he alerted just after sniffing the top of the buffet and not when he'd been sniffing around the cupboard in which it was hidden before that.

Even if he did eventually alert to CC, IMO there's a perfectly feasible explanation: Kate had been carrying it around with her every day and had only washed it a few days before. It might have smelled of washing products to humans, but there may well have been a residual scent of decomposing sweat and skin cells in the permeable toy that might have triggered Eddie's response when commanded to concentrate. To the dog, it could easily still have been a residual scent of human decomp.

Whatever scents were imbued in the brew would have been exactly the same after the toy was put in the cupboard as before.

Why wait until after the toy has been put in a cupboard before alerting?

Perhaps because he wanted his toy back?

[Carana]

Whatever scents were imbued in the brew would have been exactly the same after the toy was put in the cupboard as before.

Why wait until after the toy has been put in a cupboard before alerting?

Perhaps because he wanted his toy back?

That seems quite feasible. After his initial reaction to play with it, could the command to concentrate have been increased? For such a sensitive nose, there would surely have been human decomp VOCs of interest in that toy, due to decomposing sweat and skin cells.

He wanted the toy. The full "bouquet" is extremely unlikely to have been there anyway as few VOCs are released in the initial stages.

[pegasus]

I have no idea whether he alerted to the toy or not. I find it possible (as the PJ analysis team were also wondering), that he may have simply initially played with it in puppy mode, then was made to concentrate. However, even then, he alerted just after sniffing the top of the buffet and not when he'd been sniffing around the cupboard in which it was hidden before that.

Even if he did eventually alert to CC, IMO there's a perfectly feasible explanation: Kate had been carrying it around with her every day and had only washed it a few days before. It might have smelled of washing products to humans, but there may well have been a residual scent of decomposing sweat and skin cells in the permeable toy that might have triggered Eddie's response when commanded to concentrate. To the dog, it could easily still have been a residual scent of human decomp.

As you know my opinion is that the cat was certainly never barked at by Eddie.
But even if Eddie did bark atl the cat, I think it is illogical to assume that would be due to an adult handling the cat.

[sadie]

Maybe there was a scent on the persons hands that handled Cuddlecat?   Or a residual scent in the cupborad?  Had the cupboard been checked before? 

Do we KNOW that the video is assembled in the right order as well.  The fact that certain parts have been omitted (ie The dog playing with cuddlecat and throwing it in ther air) makes me a little suspicious, I admit.

Haven't time atm to look at the video to check, must go out.  Jobs to do.

[pegasus]

Maybe there was a scent on the persons hands that handled Cuddlecat?   Or a residual scent in the cupborad?  Had the cupboard been checked before? 

Do we KNOW that the video is assembled in the right order as well.  The fact that certain parts have been omitted (ie The dog playing with cuddlecat and throwing it in ther air) makes me a little suspicious, I admit.

Haven't time atm to look at the video to check, must go out.  Jobs to do.

The dog "throwing the toy in the air" as some describe it, is definitely in the video, it is not omitted.
(And if you do watch the video, I recommend looking at exactly where the dog sniffs just before he barks).

[Carana]

As you know my opinion is that the cat was certainly never barked at by Eddie.
But even if Eddie did bark atl the cat, I think it is illogical to assume that would be due to an adult handling the cat.

If you mean the handlers on the day, I'd tend to agree.

However, I don't find it illogic * that he could have reacted to the residual scent of Kate carrying it around for months.

*Erm, that should have read illogical...

[pegasus]

If you mean the handlers on the day, I'd tend to agree.

However, I don't find it illogic that he could have reacted to the residual scent of Kate carrying it around for months.

If the cat had been signalled, IMO it would not incriminate that witness at all, it would indicate contact with toy had occured evening 3 May without that witness's knowledge/presence.

[Carana]

If the cat had been signalled, IMO it would not incriminate that witness at all, it would indicate contact with toy had occured evening 3 May without that witness's knowledge/presence.

For the moment, I'm not sure that I follow what you're getting at there.

[pegasus]

Based on careful studies of the villa lounge alert footage in dog video, and of the window footage in Mr Amaral's video.
Here is a very basic hypothesis for now of only one room.

Wakes up, walks into another room, leaves toy on bed, reason for waking is shutter noise.

[Carana]

Based on careful studies of the villa lounge alert footage in dog video, and of the window footage in Mr Amaral's video.
Here is a very basic hypothesis for now of only one room.

Wakes up, walks into another room, leaves toy on bed, reason for waking is shutter noise.

Ah. OK.

CC could easily be a red herring: alerting to it months later, when Kate had been holding it in her hand for at least some time nearly every day could explain the alert, if ever that was what he actually alerted to.

[pegasus]

There are two alerts in villa video.
First alert is just after sniffing a pile of items on TOP of sideboard.
Second alert seems to be directed possibly at seat of a nearby bentwood dining chair but I can't see what if anything is on it.