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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #345 on: March 17, 2014, 09:02:02 PM »

I think she was taken from her bed... and proabably drugged first.

How was she drugged?
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Offline pegasus

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #346 on: March 17, 2014, 09:29:33 PM »
Woke up and walked into another room?
Or drugged while still in bed by stranger then carried into another room?
IMO the first is 100 million times more likely than the second.

Offline Anna

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Offline pegasus

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #348 on: March 17, 2014, 09:39:21 PM »
chloroform?
smell.
IMO to solve the first part "how did child leave room" the obvious solution "woke up and walked/ran into another room"  is by far the most likely.

Offline Anna

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #349 on: March 17, 2014, 09:44:26 PM »
smell.
IMO to solve the first part "how did child leave room" the obvious solution "woke up and walked/ran into another room"  is by far the most likely.

And then what?
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Offline John

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #350 on: March 17, 2014, 09:58:36 PM »
That's interesting, John. What type of dogs did you work with and where? What do you think about training techniques and potential errors?

Mostly with the larger breeds like German Shepherd, Border Collie and Labrador and in all sorts of environments.  Training of a dog starts when it is a puppy, it is a relationship for the life of the dog.  Impossible to generalise between dogs as every dog is different but an intelligent dog is a marvel.  Dogs can have off days and playful days just like anyone else but a trainer learns over time how to discriminate between them.  Eddie and Keela were in a league of their own and a huge asset to the police when they were in their prime.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline sadie

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #351 on: March 17, 2014, 10:15:10 PM »
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chloroform?

Not all chloroform smells according IIRC to Eleanor.  Eleanor doesn't get much wrong as many of you know.

Chloroform.  That is the other reason that I kept forgetting as to why the window was left open.  To get rid of the smell of the drugs used, whatever they were.

I think chloroform to begin with possibly followed by an injection, because the correct dose of chloroform would be difficult to guage for long term effect..

Offline pegasus

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #352 on: March 17, 2014, 10:33:35 PM »
And then what?
IMO best to solve first one room, and an essential part of that is to understand whether child carries cat into other room or leaves it behind on bed.


Offline slartibartfast

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #353 on: March 17, 2014, 10:35:10 PM »
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Not all chloroform smells according IIRC to Eleanor.  Eleanor doesn't get much wrong as many of you know.

Chloroform.  That is the other reason that I kept forgetting as to why the window was left open.  To get rid of the smell of the drugs used, whatever they were.

I think chloroform to begin with possibly followed by an injection, because the correct dose of chloroform would be difficult to guage for long term effect..

Really need an anaesthetist...
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Offline sadie

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #354 on: March 17, 2014, 10:42:08 PM »
Really need an anaesthetist...
Yep, I agree.  Certainly someone with medical, dentistry or nursing experience

I have been chloroformed several times as a kid.  It was horrible.


I suppose an expert could have filled a little bottle with the correct amount to put on the pad, then it would have been fairly safe.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #355 on: March 17, 2014, 10:42:58 PM »
Really need an anaesthetist...

A failed one who doesn't practise?


Offline pegasus

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #356 on: March 17, 2014, 10:53:14 PM »
If you hypothesise stranger drugging (which I certainly don't) the cat would be left on the bed.
IMO a theory less complicated is : walks into another room leaving cat behind on bed.
 

Offline pegasus

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #357 on: March 17, 2014, 11:08:16 PM »
Many women stop work or switch to part time to have kids.
Was the cat left behind on the bed? Was the cat in the sideboard signalled by Eddie?
IMO yes to the first question and no to the second. What do you think?

Offline Carana

Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #358 on: March 18, 2014, 03:57:34 PM »
Mostly with the larger breeds like German Shepherd, Border Collie and Labrador and in all sorts of environments.  Training of a dog starts when it is a puppy, it is a relationship for the life of the dog.  Impossible to generalise between dogs as every dog is different but an intelligent dog is a marvel.  Dogs can have off days and playful days just like anyone else but a trainer learns over time how to discriminate between them.  Eddie and Keela were in a league of their own and a huge asset to the police when they were in their prime.

I adore dogs and I know how intelligent some are. I also know how they can be so attentive to any sign from mummy/daddy in attempts to please them that they can get confused. Or, pick up signals to try to hide away from bathtime, however you attempt to try to disguise the impending issue.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie
« Reply #359 on: March 19, 2014, 03:31:20 AM »
I adore dogs and I know how intelligent some are. I also know how they can be so attentive to any sign from mummy/daddy in attempts to please them that they can get confused. Or, pick up signals to try to hide away from bathtime, however you attempt to try to disguise the impending issue.

These are working dogs.

They were chosen from thousands because they showed particular skill.

Then they were trained, trained, trained, trained.

They are not a household pleaser being confused by different owners who want them to sit, stay, shut up, talk on command, roll over, all inexpertly taught in lackadaisical manner when folks think of it.

They are the racehorses of the dog world.  Finely tuned, extremely valuable, able to perform at Olympian levels as routine.  They are worked every single day with the same skilled master.  It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Any doubts of the value of these cadaver dogs should have been dispelled by the discovery of the Long Island Killing Fields but what ho - not in the Universe of the McCann!