The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

[AnneGuedes]

I really doubt the red top was Madeleine's : not her style.

[AnneGuedes]

Thanks Anne

It seems no alive scent was trailed either for the tanner or smith trails

So she was not abducted by those two  potential persons

We came already to that hypothetical deductive conclusion, Redblossom..

[DCI]

I really doubt the red top was Madeleine's : not her style.

Its a boys top, Anne. But it was said it was Madeleine's. Looking at the video, I'm surprised how little clothing, if any is Madeleine's.

[Redblossom]

Thanks Anne

It seems no alive scent was trailed either for the tanner or smith trails

So she was not abducted by those two  potential persons

We came already to that hypothetical deductive conclusion, Redblossom..

yes I know, and the other conclusion might be she never left that flat alive that night, the dogs trail led to a previous route, around the apartments and down to the tapas bar door and across to the car park which was the place the mccanns took a short cut to her creche

Why would any abductor take her around the apartments and down the alleys and down a main road just as her dad had done a day or two earlier?

[ferryman]

That's my beef with Grime ...

Then what do you do of Mr Harrison, Mr Grime's guarantee ?

Not sure what you mean there Anne?

Mark Harrison never expressed any belief that Eddie "scented death"?

[ferryman]

I really doubt the red top was Madeleine's : not her style.

The red top was too small to have been worn by Madeleine (at least on that holiday) and was clearly one or other of the twin's ...

[AnneGuedes]

yes I know, and the other conclusion might be she never left that flat alive that night, the dogs trail led to a previous route, around the apartments and down to the tapas bar door and across to the car park which was the place the mccanns took a short cut to her creche

Why would any abductor take her around the apartments and down the alleys and down a main road just as her dad had done a day or two earlier?

Yes, either she wandered off and found her fate in the public parking or wasn't alive on the arms of the carrier.
Too much reality for human kind.

[AnneGuedes]

I really doubt the red top was Madeleine's : not her style.

Its a boys top, Anne. But it was said it was Madeleine's. Looking at the video, I'm surprised how little clothing, if any is Madeleine's.

Then we agree, DCI !

[AnneGuedes]

Not sure what you mean there Anne?

Mark Harrison never expressed any belief that Eddie "scented death"?

Mr Harrison was careful, as he had to, Ferryman. But he was the coach, wasn't he ?

[Redblossom]

yes I know, and the other conclusion might be she never left that flat alive that night, the dogs trail led to a previous route, around the apartments and down to the tapas bar door and across to the car park which was the place the mccanns took a short cut to her creche

Why would any abductor take her around the apartments and down the alleys and down a main road just as her dad had done a day or two earlier?

Yes, either she wandered off and found her fate in the public parking or wasn't alive on the arms of the carrier.
Too much reality for human kind.

yes, or never left 5a on her own alive

[AnneGuedes]

yes, or never left 5a on her own alive

Go, go, said the bird.

[icabodcrane]

I must say, the increasingly desperate attempts to demean and diminuish the valuable contribution of police working dogs is quite baffling

The cadavour dog's intended use is to sniff out the scent of death ...   that  is what his function is ...  that is what he is there for

It is a very serious function ... and a desperately sad one where a missing child is at the heart of it

The dog  may   have been alerting because the missing child had died, and  cadavour odour had been transfered  ...  that   IS a possibility

Ridiculing the dog and his handler,   while that  remains  a possibility,  just seems very wrong to me

[ferryman]

Not sure what you mean there Anne?

Mark Harrison never expressed any belief that Eddie "scented death"?

Mr Harrison was careful, as he had to, Ferryman. But he was the coach, wasn't he ?

Coach or trainer.

No.

That was Grime.

Ica:

The cadavour dog's intended use is to sniff out the scent of death ...   that  is what his function is ...  that is what he is there for

Cadaver dogs are good at finding cadavers, when there is a cadaver to find.

Otherwise their secondary use is finding blood.

That can also crack crimes.

It did in the Attracta Harron case.

But blood or false alert are the only (conceivable) reasons for Eddie's alerts in PdL.

[Carana]

Im still confused Anne between the relationship between Numi sniffing the childs blanket and Eddies alerts to the cat, I dont know why the two are being linked

I'm sorry, Redblossom, this is probably not very clear for me and then badly expressed.
The cat was near the blanket on the bed, a photo shows it.
If the cat then had a scent of death, the blanket would have also, contamination or not.
The blanket didn't smell death since Numi didn't reject it.
So the cat could only have been contaminated after the disappearance, may be by the pants, since it spent a part of his toy life on the lap of Mrs McCann.
The trouble with death scent is that it has no identity at all.

If ever Eddie had reacted to CC, there's a fairly simple potential explanation: Kate held it in her hand for ages at least from the footage of her outdoors. Skin cells and perspiration would have soaked into the material. The decomposition would have made it smell after a while. It got washed. It might have smelled ok to humans, but the decomposition might still have been perceptible to Eddie if he was concentrating extra hard.

However, I'm still not convinced that Eddie ever reacted to CC.

[AnneGuedes]

Im still confused Anne between the relationship between Numi sniffing the childs blanket and Eddies alerts to the cat, I dont know why the two are being linked

I'm sorry, Redblossom, this is probably not very clear for me and then badly expressed.
The cat was near the blanket on the bed, a photo shows it.
If the cat then had a scent of death, the blanket would have also, contamination or not.
The blanket didn't smell death since Numi didn't reject it.
So the cat could only have been contaminated after the disappearance, may be by the pants, since it spent a part of his toy life on the lap of Mrs McCann.
The trouble with death scent is that it has no identity at all.

If ever Eddie had reacted to CC, there's a fairly simple potential explanation: Kate held it in her hand for ages at least from the footage of her outdoors. Skin cells and perspiration would have soaked into the material. The decomposition would have made it smell after a while. It got washed. It might have smelled ok to humans, but the decomposition might still have been perceptible to Eddie if he was concentrating extra hard.

However, I'm still not convinced that Eddie ever reacted to CC.

Neither am I. If he reacted it was to some old scent from the UK (sorry !)