The truth about the failed marking of cuddle cat by cadaver dog Eddie

[DCI]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

[Redblossom]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

Not interesting at all but keep trying

[ferryman]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

 It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent ...

Martin Grime ....

[DCI]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

 It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent ...

Martin Grime ....

Bingo, someone else saw it too 

[AnneGuedes]

The conclusion is sad, I agree.

[DCI]

The conclusion is sad, I agree.

But its not a conclusion, Anne. How can it be?

[Carana]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

 It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent ...

Martin Grime ....

Possible... that's all it ever was.

And nothing ever corroborated that possibility.

[AnneGuedes]

The conclusion is sad, I agree.

But its not a conclusion, Anne. How can it be?

Objectively it isn't, DCI.

[ferryman]

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training. In six years of operational deployment in over 200
criminal case searches the dog has never alerted to meat based and
specifically pork foodstuffs designed for human consumption. Similarly the
dog has never alerted to 'road kill', that is any other dead animal.
My experience as a trainer is that false alerts are normally caused by handler
cueing. All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour.
This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops
handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and
investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour
other than to direct the search.

Martin Grime

Just about every alert in PdL was preceded by Eddie turning to face Grime.

Was that the 'change in behaviour'?

[ferryman]

Interesting little snipet.


A dog's utility depends on the skill of its handler. Identifying false signals is an important part of working with a cadaver dog, and results should be backed up with forensic testing. When a dog gives a signal, such as barking or sitting down, to indicate that it has smelled a corpse, a handler can only say something along the lines of, "My dog is giving an indication consistent with human blood." He can't say definitively that, yes, a body was present, without further confirmation—in the form of a blood stain, for example.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/09/scent_of_a_dead_woman.html

 It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to cadaver scent ...

Martin Grime ....

Possible... that's all it ever was.

And nothing ever corroborated that possibility.

Granted that Grime hedged slightly.

But I would dispute that he ought, ever, to be making such statements ...

[ferryman]

Fact  remains Eddie, a cdaver sog, alerted to 11 places in this case, thats why some are so rabid in their attempts to trash the alerts, oh well, sad at best, failures at worst

Cite, please.

you have NOT read the files, which is obvious by many of your posts you have not, I  cant help you except to be KIND


cadaver dog alerted to


Living room
Bedroom
Vernadah
Garden
Soft toy
Car
Kates trousers
Kates top
Childs top

my apologies  9 not 11, still alot

Kates trousers
Kates top
Childs top

All picked up by Eddie in his mouth.  Not a trained response

Soft toy

I want my toy back

Garden

Recently fertilised.  There is a pig-based fertiliser.

Car

Gerry's blood

Then there was the PJ officer who cut his finger and the shaving cut of Paul Gordon.

None of it very promising for the the themccannsdunit brigade ...

[AnneGuedes]

Garden

Recently fertilised.  There is a pig-based fertiliser.

I'm interested, Ferryman, have you got a link ?

[ferryman]

Garden

Recently fertilised.  There is a pig-based fertiliser.

I'm interested, Ferryman, have you got a link ?

http://gentleworld.org/whats-hiding-in-your-organic-fertilizer/

(sic)

Animal Manures:
From cows, pigs, chickens, etc. This one shouldn’t shock anyone. I think we’ve all walked by a yard that had the tell- tale odor of “fresh manure-based fertilizer”. Did you know though that the manure you buy at your local gardening store may contain livestock-grade hormones and antibiotics that can be readily absorbed by the plants you are growing?

[AnneGuedes]

How can it be that no such 'explanations'  are necessary in any of the other locations that the dog attended  ? 

... only where the McCanns are concerned

This is an hero vs anti-hero narrative, Icabodcrane !

[AnneGuedes]

http://gentleworld.org/whats-hiding-in-your-organic-fertilizer/

(sic)

Animal Manures:
From cows, pigs, chickens, etc. This one shouldn’t shock anyone. I think we’ve all walked by a yard that had the tell- tale odor of “fresh manure-based fertilizer”. Did you know though that the manure you buy at your local gardening store may contain livestock-grade hormones and antibiotics that can be readily absorbed by the plants you are growing?

Thank you, Ferryman, but please a link saying that this manure was put in the G5 flowerbed.