Author Topic: Has the reward money for the safe return of Madeleine McCann been dropped?  (Read 122413 times)

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Offline Angelo222

Great, well that's settled it then.

No its not settled by any means.   The Mccanns were all too happy to receive the help of offers of rewards from newspapers and others prior to suing them and Leveson.   Is it not the case that those newpapers who were sued are now less than happy to have anythig to do with them and that includes a reward?
The McCanns did not sue any of the benefactors who put up reward money.

No, that's correct, they just sunk the boot into Murdoch at Leveson.  Little wonder then that the McCanns receive little or no support from The Times or The Sun these days.
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Offline Admin

Would you say this was unsupportive of the McCanns?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4941648/kate-mccann-plea-on-international-missing-childrens-day.html


Obviously what was supposed to be International Missing Children's day has been turned into yet another publicity stunt centred on Madeleine McCann.  How many other children have been mentioned?  What a missed opportunity...so sad.

Offline Angelo222

Would you say this was unsupportive of the McCanns?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4941648/kate-mccann-plea-on-international-missing-childrens-day.html


Obviously what was supposed to be International Missing Children's day has been turned into yet another publicity stunt centred on Madeleine McCann.  How many other children have been mentioned?  What a missed opportunity...so sad.


No mention of a reward for Maddie any more which sort of says it all.  Seems the money is going to missing children now. 

The question hasn't been answered however as to why the McCanns aren't promoting a reward.  We have seen excuses posted in response to a question to their campaign team but little else. You would have thought that if they were serious about doing anything to find Maddie that they would be doing all and everything available to them and that includes offering a reward.
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Offline sadie

Would you say this was unsupportive of the McCanns?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4941648/kate-mccann-plea-on-international-missing-childrens-day.html


Obviously what was supposed to be International Missing Children's day has been turned into yet another publicity stunt centred on Madeleine McCann.  How many other children have been mentioned?  What a missed opportunity...so sad.


No mention of a reward for Maddie any more which sort of says it all.  Seems the money is going to missing children now. 

The question hasn't been answered however as to why the McCanns aren't promoting a reward.  We have seen excuses posted in response to a question to their campaign team but little else. You would have thought that if they were serious about doing anything to find Maddie that they would be doing all and everything available to them and that includes offering a reward.

If the benefactors have reneged and you aint got the dosh, you cant do it.

registrar

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Would you say this was unsupportive of the McCanns?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4941648/kate-mccann-plea-on-international-missing-childrens-day.html


Obviously what was supposed to be International Missing Children's day has been turned into yet another publicity stunt centred on Madeleine McCann.  How many other children have been mentioned?  What a missed opportunity...so sad.


No mention of a reward for Maddie any more which sort of says it all.  Seems the money is going to missing children now. 

The question hasn't been answered however as to why the McCanns aren't promoting a reward.  We have seen excuses posted in response to a question to their campaign team but little else. You would have thought that if they were serious about doing anything to find Maddie that they would be doing all and everything available to them and that includes offering a reward.

If the benefactors have reneged and you aint got the dosh, you cant do it.

Are you suggesting Branson has withdrawn 1.5 million - pocket money to him?

Offline sadie

i am not suggesting anything registrar, just putting a possible scenario forward.

That's all.

ferryman

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Very obvious, why?

Rewards are a two-edged sword.  Any decent person with valuable information to impart, or even information believed, in good faith, to be valuable, ought not to need any incentive to share it with the appropriate authorities, beyond a (genuine) desire, either to see Madeleine finally re-united with her parents or (if there is bad news to impart) at least to give Kate and Gerry closure in knowing what has happened.

The problem with rewards is that it brings bounty-hunters crawling out of the wood work, not necessarily remotely interested in Madeleine's welfare or the McCanns' peace of mind.

There's a whole chapter devoted to the pros and cons of rewards in the Family Survival Guide. Not as easy a decision to make as one might think.

The decision isn't always made by the family, either. Kind benefactors and even the media can offer a reward and you end up faced with a fait accompli.

Going way back:

Carana, could you give us a synopsis of what that says, please?

Offline Carana

Marha beat me to it.

Ch. 6 - it starts on p. 71 in the scribd document.
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/61046626?access_key=key-9c0ayklygclzsdzq7bw

ferryman

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Thank you.

It seems to be based on the precepts of American law, which may apply differently in Britain.

But I plucked out this:

Also, the desire for reward money could motivate an abductor to keep a child alive.

Clearly state the purpose of the offer. First decide what you want the reward to accomplish, then make sure that this purpose is clearly spelled out in the offer. For example, it is a good idea to make your child's safe return a written condition of the reward. The better the description of the reward's purpose, the less likely it is that you will have to argue later over whether someone complied with the terms of the offer.

Set a time limit for the reward. One of the goals of a reward is to generate immediate results in order to get your child back quickly. In the beginning, you may want to keep the time limit fairly short and tie it to a significant event, such as your child's birthday. The drama of such a countdown could generate substantial public interest. Avoid open-ended rewards that can result in liability many years later. You can always renew the reward for a longer period of time.

Don't know. 

Offline Carana

That guide doesn't cover every situation - I don't think it's meant to.

Be careful in establishing the amount ofthe reward.
Don’t offer more money than you can afford to pay. Decide on the maximum amount of the reward in the first offer and stick to it because if you raise the amount later, people may wait for a more lucrative offer before calling in a lead

(...)


Be aware that monetary pledges are not as reliable as donations.
It is much easier to persuade people to pledge money toward areward than it is to get them to donate cash.Therefore, you can in theory raise much more money through pledges than you can through donations. The problem is that you cannot bes ure that a pledge will be honored when the time comes to pay outthe reward. If you use pledges, get the pledge in writing, pay attention to the expiration date of the pledge, and plan to spend a fair amount of time making sure your pledges are still legitimate. Pledges are not forever.

Offline Carana

In the Ylenia case, the police announced a reward for information leading to her whereabouts (CHF21k, €13k) a month after her disappearance. Seemingly it came from an unknown benefactor.

She was abducted on 31 July 2007 and the reward was announced late August.

Her remains were finally found by a member of the public in a forest mid-September 2007*, in an area that search teams had already checked. (The remains were dug up by wild animals.)

The guy who found her was a student who (I believe) accepted the reward, but stated that he was primarly motivated by a family tragedy of his own and had apparently spent a lot of his spare time searching for her.


* Correction: the date of the media articles showed 2010, which seems wrong.
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Offline Carana

In the Ylenia case, the police announced a reward for information leading to her whereabouts (CHF21k, €13k) a month after her disappearance. Seemingly it came from an unknown benefactor.

She was abducted on 31 July 2007 and the reward was announced late August.

Her remains were finally found by a member of the public in a forest late June 2010, in an area that search teams had already checked. (The remains were dug up by wild animals.)

The guy who found her was a student who (I believe) accepted the reward, but stated that he was primarly motivated by a family tragedy of his own and had apparently spent a lot of his spare time searching for her.

Everyone's different of course but I don't think I'd be able to accept money in such circumstances unless to give back to the parents or to charity.

I amended my post as the date of the articles was almost certainly wrong. Her body was found mid- September 2007.

Offline Carana

In the Ylenia case, the police announced a reward for information leading to her whereabouts (CHF21k, €13k) a month after her disappearance. Seemingly it came from an unknown benefactor.

She was abducted on 31 July 2007 and the reward was announced late August.

Her remains were finally found by a member of the public in a forest late June 2010, in an area that search teams had already checked. (The remains were dug up by wild animals.)

The guy who found her was a student who (I believe) accepted the reward, but stated that he was primarly motivated by a family tragedy of his own and had apparently spent a lot of his spare time searching for her.

Everyone's different of course but I don't think I'd be able to accept money in such circumstances unless to give back to the parents or to charity.

I've no idea what he actually did with the money. Maybe he did give it away. He was a student, though, and may have needed it to pay his way through uni. He may have made a choice to search for her as opposed to taking a weekend job, for example.

Offline Angelo222

I go back to my original point.  If the McCanns were deadly serious about getting their daughter back and considering everything they have attempted in the last 6 years has been an unmitigated flop they should be offering a substantial reward for any information.  Martha is an apologist for everything McCann by the looks of it and to answer your question Martha I will ask you one.  What if any of the original offers of money amounting to over £2.5m in the form of reward cash still exist?  The News of the World has gone and I don't see Murdoch authorising The Sun to be making any offers any time soon after the balling out he received at Leveson.
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Offline sadie

Angelo, call me an apologist if you wish, but I am with Martha

She, like me is an ardent pro, but that doesn't make us apologists for the Mccanns