Author Topic: Has the reward money for the safe return of Madeleine McCann been dropped?  (Read 112722 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Mrs. B

The Latins are a very family orientated and proud people and they do not appreciate being talked down to. 

Really? Better run off & tell UNICEF about that - they have a different idea...

http://www.unicef.org/media/media_14661.html

The UNICEF research estimates that almost 3,500 children under the age of 15 die from physical abuse and neglect every year in the industrialized world.  The greatest risk is among younger children.  A small group of countries – Spain, Greece, Italy, Ireland and Norway – appear to have an exceptionally low incidence of child maltreatment deaths; Belgium, the Czech Republic, New Zealand, Hungary and France have levels that are four to six times higher.  The United States, Mexico and Portugal have rates that are between 10 and 15 times higher than those at the top of the league table. [/b]

Offline Mrs. B

Odd how resentful some people are about the Madeleine Fund.  I guess the McCanns should have refused all those kind donations and not bothered trying to raise any money to help find their daughter and just got menial jobs in the Algarve instead to fund their search on days off and weekends.  Would that have made them more genuine in some people's opinion?


Well definitely not my opinion......

wasn't the fund money used for the most expensive lowers the best money could buy [forget how many they had wasnt it 11 at one point]....

All that money people donated ...yet they got the cheapest corruptest P I........

Most expensive lowers?  What does that mean?

Lawyers, I think, supposedly Carter Ruck - who didn't cost anything at all as they had  a No Win No Fee agreement in place.

Offline faithlilly

Odd how resentful some people are about the Madeleine Fund.  I guess the McCanns should have refused all those kind donations and not bothered trying to raise any money to help find their daughter and just got menial jobs in the Algarve instead to fund their search on days off and weekends.  Would that have made them more genuine in some people's opinion?


Well definitely not my opinion......

wasn't the fund money used for the most expensive lowers the best money could buy [forget how many they had wasnt it 11 at one point]....

All that money people donated ...yet they got the cheapest corruptest P I........

Most expensive lowers?  What does that mean?

Lawyers, I think, supposedly Carter Ruck - who didn't cost anything at all as they had  a No Win No Fee agreement in place.

Yes when taking the Express to court. Most of the work done by them such as monitoring forums, contacting website hosts etc are not covered by CFA so who is paying for that if not the fund ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mrs. B

LOL Have you got any proof that money from the fund has been used to pay Carter Ruck? If so please provide it.


Offline Eleanor


It is more than possible that Brian Windows Kennedy was footing the bill.  But he isn't talking about it.  And why should he.  It isn't the business of anyone else.

Offline Mrs. B


It is more than possible that Brian Windows Kennedy was footing the bill.  But he isn't talking about it.  And why should he.  It isn't the business of anyone else.

We don't know WHO is paying, or if anyone is, but we do know that Carter Ruck is on record stating they have NEVER received one penny from the Find Madeleine Fund. It was Bennett who insisted they clarify that matter. They replied back to him saying that, although nor they, nor the McCann had any obligation to answer his questions, they could in confirm that fact.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 01:16:12 PM by Mrs. B »

Offline Carana


It's not more wristbands we need - it's straight answers to what happened on May 3rd and the run up to it.

Who is "we" and what would that change in terms of finding the missing child?

Offline xtina

Odd how resentful some people are about the Madeleine Fund.  I guess the McCanns should have refused all those kind donations and not bothered trying to raise any money to help find their daughter and just got menial jobs in the Algarve instead to fund their search on days off and weekends.  Would that have made them more genuine in some people's opinion?


Well definitely not my opinion......

wasn't the fund money used for the most expensive lowers the best money could buy [forget how many they had wasnt it 11 at one point]....

All that money people donated ...yet they got the cheapest corruptest P I........

Most expensive lowers?  What does that mean?




lawyer.......................i must have been thinking the lower amount was spent on maddie...
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Mrs. B

Odd how resentful some people are about the Madeleine Fund.  I guess the McCanns should have refused all those kind donations and not bothered trying to raise any money to help find their daughter and just got menial jobs in the Algarve instead to fund their search on days off and weekends.  Would that have made them more genuine in some people's opinion?


Well definitely not my opinion......

wasn't the fund money used for the most expensive lowers the best money could buy [forget how many they had wasnt it 11 at one point]....

All that money people donated ...yet they got the cheapest corruptest P I........

Most expensive lowers?  What does that mean?




lawyer.......................i must have been thinking the lower amount was spent on maddie...

Which "lower" amount was spent on Maddie, since NO money was spent on Carter Ruck?

debunker

  • Guest
No, still none of your business. Nobody was forced to donate to the fund. Those who did, did so voluntarily. None of you have been able to provide one scintilla of evidence of any wrong doings, you can whine all you want about the fund not spending money on what YOU would have wanted it to.

If you donate money to the British Heart Foundation, do you think you have a vote on what specific heart conditions they fund research for? Not a chance.

I beg to differ, the McCanns sought the help of the public, they are thus obliged to provide that public with proper updates as to what they are doing with their (publics) money.  This is in addition to their responsibilities as directors of a Limited Company.  This money was not donated to the McCanns to pay their mortgage or libel lawyers or crooked investigators...this money was donated and is still being donated to search for Madeleine. Maybe they have forgotten this concept in the mist of the last 6 years??

To get local media interested never mind being onside the McCanns would have to spend time in Portugal.  Working or not working is irrelevant as they have a fund behind them.  They will not find Madeleine sitting in England writing books and making the odd tv or radio appearance talking about themselves.  The Latins are a very family orientated and proud people and they do not appreciate being talked down to.  This is something the McCanns are yet to appreciate imo.

Good point xtina.

They are obliged to do nothing at all.

Given the attempts to defame them, I am not surprised that they limited the target by publishing abbreviated accounts.

Offline Benice

Why would Madeleine be in either Portugal or Spain? There's absolutely no proof that she is in either place so why would they go there? Why not Timbuktu or Tokyo or, why not the UK, even? Totally senseless & btw THEY don't have the authority to go around demanding to inspect other people's properties or houses. Only police have the authority to do that.

The reward issue is bull anyway, if the people who KNOW what happened did not come forward when there was £1.5 m on offer from Branson & NOTW, why on earth would they come forward now, for a lot less money? Makes no sense whatsoever. IMO

You obviously don't comprehend how the passage of time effects such issues.  There is no such thing as a Criminals Charter, one will sell out the other for a few Euros and now is the time to put it to the test and not to hide behind what the Met have allegedly advised.  As for Timbuktu and Tokyo I am very sure that you won't find Madeleine there but your flippant comment does not surprise me in the least as the McCanns have continually resisted returning to Portugal for any period longer than a day or two.There is a every possibility that Madeleine is still in Portugal or even Spain so they are the logical place to start.  Even if she wasn't still in Portugal there are people in the country who know what happened to her.  It is to them that the pressure should be exerted.

How would you or anyone else know how many times they go to Portugal?   They are not obliged to make a public announcement every time they go.    You talk about them as if they are public property and are in some way duty bound to divulge every move they make.  Do you tell the McCanns when YOU go abroad?
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Eleanor


Oh my goodness me.  The McCanns don't want to go to Portugal for a fortnight's holiday, or even a week.  Why ever not?

Offline TTSOFAFM

Kate writes this about the reward.
Quote
Alex Woolfall told us that the News of the World, spearheading a group of other benefactors – including Bill Kenwright, the theatre impresario and chairman of Everton FC, businessmen Sir Richard Branson and Sir Philip Green and Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling – was prepared to put up a reward ‘package’ totalling £1.5 million. It would involve companies such as British Airways and Vodafone helping with publicity and awareness initiatives. They needed to know by the following day whether we would like them to proceed. This may sound like a no-brainer, but we had to be careful. We hadn’t a clue how such rewards worked. Would the police be involved? Who would coordinate any ransom negotiations? How would we actually get hold of all this money if necessary? And, most importantly, what were the potential pitfalls? Surely it could lead to fraudulent claims that might waste valuable time and resources. We had no idea, either, what implications this might have for Madeleine’s safety.

Under pressure to make a decision, we solicited advice from various quarters, which confirmed that this kind of thing could indeed be a bit of a double-edged sword. We felt that, on balance, the pros outweighed the cons, thanked all the participants and accepted the offer, as much because we did not want to turn down any corporate help as anything else. With the £100,000 from my GP colleague and a staggering £1 million added by Stephen Winyard – the owner of Stobo Castle spa in the Scottish Highlands and a man who had so far never even met us – the rewards promised now totalled £2.6 million.

McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (pp. 121-122). Random House UK. Kindle Edition. McCann, Kate (2011-05-12). Madeleine (p. 121). Random House UK. Kindle Edition.
It is clear the reward was orchestrated by the News of the World.  As the newspaper is no longer in print I suspect the reward is no longer available, however as they were part of Murdoch's empire, confirmation from News International as to whether the reward is available or not would clarify matters.

The McCanns, by all accounts, had to give their permission for a reward to be offered as offers came flooding in and the reward was being spearheaded by the News of the World.  It is obvious the McCanns would promote the reward and even visit the sight where the giant inflatable advertising the reward was placed.

However what I do find interesting is the Survival guide about having a child who is missing and what they say about rewards, especially the part about using your own finances.

Quote
Do not use your personal funds to finance the reward. As hard as it may be, refrain from using your own personal funds for the reward. Based on the terms and conditions spelled out in the reward offer, you may be liable for payment of the reward, and you may even be sued. And though you may not realize it in the beginning, you may be faced with financial constraints months or years later, for example, if you are out of work for an extended period of time helping in the search for your child

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61046626/Family-Survival-When-Your-Child-Goes-Missing

Chapter 6 is well worth a read.

We can all sit here, post and say how we would react if our child went missing.  What you think you might do, could be completely different to what you would actually do if you were in that situation.  If your child was missing, you would move heaven and earth to get your child back.  You would use the media to keep your child's profile high.  A family with a missing child never give up hope. 

registrar

  • Guest
Registrar, do you accept that Madeleine was likely abducted by a stranger?

No
Ah, I see. So do you think the McCanns are involved in her disappearance?

Nope, nice try though, woke and wandered and met with an accident or chance abduction

still a viable option

think on

Offline Angelo222

... woke and wandered and met with an accident or chance abduction

still a viable option

I don't agree registrar.   There is far too much evidence against this ergo »

1.  Had she awoke and wandered she would have been heard on the balcony.

2.  Madeleine could not have raised the shutters.

3.  Suspect seen fleeing the scene between checks.

4.  Cuddle cat left in room.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!