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Offline Mrs. B

Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« on: June 03, 2013, 04:31:34 PM »
Something that is seldom mentioned (AFAIK) is that, apparently, Amaral launched his own private investigation & put a team together to investigate the case.Does anyone know what happened to that one?

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/amaral-and-former-policemen-are.html

Amaral and former policemen are investigating the "Maddie" case Jornal de Notícias
 
Former coordinator reveals that Portuguese, Spanish, English and Germans are working with him
 
by Alexandra Serôdio
30 April 2009
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
 
A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense.
 
The former Judiciária coordinator told JN that the result will be communicated to the Attorney General.
 
Restlessness and curiosity were heavy and the bitter taste of a "precocious and political" archiving left them "brooding" on a solution. The words are from Gonçalo Amaral – the first head of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann – who reveals that the group of investigators, that is made up by Portuguese, Spanish, English and Germans, wants to "know the truth".
 
"We have been talking, exchanging ideas, trying to understand what happened, discussing possibilities and thinking about the entire process", the former coordinator of the Polícia Judiciária's Criminal Investigation Department in Portimão reveals. Despite refusing to reveal what is being done on the field and in what form, he asserts that "this investigation is not to arrange for evidence against the McCann couple".
 
"We want to contribute for the truth to be known and in that way, for justice to be made. If there are guilty people, they must stand before justice. This is a right that assists any citizen in this country, to fight for justice to be done in every case", Gonçalo Amaral sustained, stressing that "it's not only the courts, the policemen and the judges that fight for justice, anyone can do it".
 
Asserting that this investigation does "not intend to persecute anyone", the former coordinator stresses the need to understand "what could have been done back then and what can be done now". Always in an attempt to "find the truth and to understand what really happened to Madeleine". Opting not to reveal major details, Gonçalo Amaral says that the group is made of retired policemen, who investigate "at their own expense" and "without the use of funds".
 
What is established will then be put into a "well based document" that will be delivered to the Attorney General, with the request to reopen the process that has been archived since July 21, 2007.
 
"The criminal investigation was abruptly interrupted, before it even got halfway. There is still a lot to be investigated that may even lead nowhere, but it may lead to other paths and to the truth", the former coordinator advances, asking for "political courage" to those who have the power to "reopen the process".
 
"If the Attorney General's mailbox was flooded with, for example, three million requests to reopen the process, I believe the case might be reopened", the investigator stated.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id233.html

Offline gilet

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 04:35:52 PM »
Something that is seldom mentioned (AFAIK) is that, apparently, Amaral launched his own private investigation & put a team together to investigate the case.Does anyone know what happened to that one?

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/amaral-and-former-policemen-are.html

Amaral and former policemen are investigating the "Maddie" case Jornal de Notícias
 
Former coordinator reveals that Portuguese, Spanish, English and Germans are working with him
 
by Alexandra Serôdio
30 April 2009
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
 
A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense.
 
The former Judiciária coordinator told JN that the result will be communicated to the Attorney General.
 
Restlessness and curiosity were heavy and the bitter taste of a "precocious and political" archiving left them "brooding" on a solution. The words are from Gonçalo Amaral – the first head of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann – who reveals that the group of investigators, that is made up by Portuguese, Spanish, English and Germans, wants to "know the truth".
 
"We have been talking, exchanging ideas, trying to understand what happened, discussing possibilities and thinking about the entire process", the former coordinator of the Polícia Judiciária's Criminal Investigation Department in Portimão reveals. Despite refusing to reveal what is being done on the field and in what form, he asserts that "this investigation is not to arrange for evidence against the McCann couple".
 
"We want to contribute for the truth to be known and in that way, for justice to be made. If there are guilty people, they must stand before justice. This is a right that assists any citizen in this country, to fight for justice to be done in every case", Gonçalo Amaral sustained, stressing that "it's not only the courts, the policemen and the judges that fight for justice, anyone can do it".
 
Asserting that this investigation does "not intend to persecute anyone", the former coordinator stresses the need to understand "what could have been done back then and what can be done now". Always in an attempt to "find the truth and to understand what really happened to Madeleine". Opting not to reveal major details, Gonçalo Amaral says that the group is made of retired policemen, who investigate "at their own expense" and "without the use of funds".
 
What is established will then be put into a "well based document" that will be delivered to the Attorney General, with the request to reopen the process that has been archived since July 21, 2007.
 
"The criminal investigation was abruptly interrupted, before it even got halfway. There is still a lot to be investigated that may even lead nowhere, but it may lead to other paths and to the truth", the former coordinator advances, asking for "political courage" to those who have the power to "reopen the process".
 
"If the Attorney General's mailbox was flooded with, for example, three million requests to reopen the process, I believe the case might be reopened", the investigator stated.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id233.html

Never heard anything after that.

It fizzled out.

Was he too busy with defending himself and later being convicted of a criminal offence to concentrate on it?  Were the other cops involved Almeida (also on trial at the time and later convicted) and Cristovao (currently on trial for very serious offences)?

It would be nice if Joana Morais updated us on this.

She could at the same time update us on the state of that Amaral fund as well, another thing that came and went. It would be interesting to know what happened to the money so generously donated.


Offline Mo Stache

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 04:40:33 PM »
"A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense." How is that allowed, if the McCann's were told that it was against Portuguese law to have PI's investigating a case in Portugal. If this group of policemen are 'former' then that makes them citizens doing a private investigation, not so?

Offline gilet

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 04:42:31 PM »
"A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense." How is that allowed, if the McCann's were told that it was against Portuguese law to have PI's investigating a case in Portugal. If this group of policemen are 'former' then that makes them citizens doing a private investigation, not so?

Possibly it was OK as it was after the archival of the process?

Offline Mo Stache

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 04:46:27 PM »
"A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense." How is that allowed, if the McCann's were told that it was against Portuguese law to have PI's investigating a case in Portugal. If this group of policemen are 'former' then that makes them citizens doing a private investigation, not so?

Possibly it was OK as it was after the archival of the process?
Could be.

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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 05:06:02 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 05:10:42 PM »
"A group of former policemen from Portugal and other countries, which includes Gonçalo Amaral, is investigating the Maddie case at their own expense." How is that allowed, if the McCann's were told that it was against Portuguese law to have PI's investigating a case in Portugal. If this group of policemen are 'former' then that makes them citizens doing a private investigation, not so?

LOL, would that be Cristoavo's security company, Mo? I'm surprised he didn't send someone to the bank, or put spy camera's up.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 05:15:14 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

What was his take on the outcome, amaraltheofficeboy?
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Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 05:19:26 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

I have absolutely no recollection of any outcome other than various spoutings by pals (and perhaps himself) in the PT TV Guide and on matinée PT TV chat shows.

 

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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 05:19:43 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

What was his take on the outcome, amaraltheofficeboy?

the missing pink blanket would solve the case - he was perfectly serious.

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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 05:21:03 PM »
he wanted to get on to Oprah

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 05:28:03 PM »


the missing pink blanket would solve the case - he was perfectly serious.

Was't Sargento the one who kept talking in ominous tones about a supposedly missing pink blanket - which, in fact, had been given to the PT dogs to try to locate her?

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 05:41:20 PM »
Paulo Reis and associates were also supposed to crack the case.

On cell phone calls:

 More on the deleted call records
Where Was Kate McCann? (*)
Thursday, 4 December 2008
By Paulo Reis and associates

(*) This report is a result of cooperation with a leading international investigative firm that is in the closing stages of an 18 month intensive investigation that is expected to reopen the case in Portugal and to start new proceedings in the UK.

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/more-on-deleted-call-records.html



There were others... Some were so bizarre that I'm not sure that they're even still online.

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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2013, 05:58:14 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

What was his take on the outcome, amaraltheofficeboy?

the missing pink blanket would solve the case - he was perfectly serious.

But in his book, Amaral say's, The pink blanket is also really tidy, almost folded. Pointing to it on the bed.




So IF, it was missing, shouldn't he be asking the forensic chappies?
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Re: Amaral's OWN Private Investigation
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2013, 06:13:41 PM »
the outcome was the pink blanket

I am serious about this - he appeared on many TV shows to report this outcome.

didn't he even write to some US show to try to get on to explain?

What was his take on the outcome, amaraltheofficeboy?

the missing pink blanket would solve the case - he was perfectly serious.

But in his book, Amaral say's, The pink blanket is also really tidy, almost folded. Pointing to it on the bed.



So IF, it was missing, shouldn't he be asking the forensic chappies?
Or those GNR chappies?

Didn't they get hold of it to use when their sniffer dogs needed something to sniff?