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Offline Brietta

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #195 on: July 22, 2015, 11:58:43 PM »

The man who 'does' the polygraph tests for a daytime television show "Trisha" offers the Drs McCann a polygraph test?? and there are those who think that is OK.

Oh well it takes all kinds I suppose.



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Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2015, 12:01:11 AM »
Are his tests all wrong then?
Or do you have some antipathy to DOCTORS being lie detected

Lets face it Brietta docs commit  as many crimes as anyone  else
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2015, 12:08:54 AM »
The man who 'does' the polygraph tests for a daytime television show "Trisha" offers the Drs McCann a polygraph test?? and there are those who think that is OK.

Oh well it takes all kinds I suppose.

He also did the test on Adrian Prout, which led to a confession. Not bad going. What's wrong with Trisha anyway, she's just the Oprah of the UK, isn't she?
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Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2015, 12:33:51 AM »
He also did the test on Adrian Prout, which led to a confession. Not bad going. What's wrong with Trisha anyway, she's just the Oprah of the UK, isn't she?

OMG did he?
But obviously he is not good enough for the mccanns

LOL good one



Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #199 on: July 23, 2015, 12:45:34 AM »
OMG did he?
But obviously he is not good enough for the mccanns

LOL good one

Prout's girlfriend arranged it in a bid to prove his innocence (she believed in him). It had the opposite result however. Prout then confessed and Eddie was proved correct.

The McCanns lost two chances to 'demonstrate their innocence' then. The reconstruction and the lie detector test.
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Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #200 on: July 23, 2015, 12:55:31 AM »
Prout's girlfriend arranged it in a bid to prove his innocence (she believed in him). It had the opposite result however. Prout then confessed and Eddie was proved correct.

The McCanns lost two chances to 'demonstrate their innocence' then. The reconstruction and the lie detector test.

OMG never knew all that! Thanks!

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Offline Benice

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2015, 08:01:06 AM »
The man who 'does' the polygraph tests for a daytime television show "Trisha" offers the Drs McCann a polygraph test?? and there are those who think that is OK.

Oh well it takes all kinds I suppose.

I can just  imagine the response from some sceptics if the McCanns failed a lie detector test.   Lie detectors would be hailed as the best invention since 'the wheel', and the result would be claimed as 100% proof of their guilt -  and that lie detectors are infallible.

On the other hand :

If they passed the test sceptics would claim it proved zilch -  as it is a well known fact that lie detectors are not infallible and that some people can 'cheat' it.      And of course there would be those who would immediately claim it was a fix.

AIMHO.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #202 on: July 23, 2015, 08:04:41 AM »
I can just  imagine the response from some sceptics if the McCanns failed a lie detector test.   Lie detectors would be hailed as the best invention since 'the wheel', and the result would be claimed as 100% proof of their guilt -  and that lie detectors are infallible.

On the other hand :

If they passed the test sceptics would claim it proved zilch -  as it is a well known fact that lie detectors are not infallible and that some people can 'cheat' it.      And of course there would be those who would immediately claim it was a fix.

AIMHO.
Bang on the nail.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #203 on: July 23, 2015, 08:07:01 AM »
I can just  imagine the response from some sceptics if the McCanns failed a lie detector test.   Lie detectors would be hailed as the best invention since 'the wheel', and the result would be claimed as 100% proof of their guilt -  and that lie detectors are infallible.

On the other hand :

If they passed the test sceptics would claim it proved zilch -  as it is a well known fact that lie detectors are not infallible and that some people can 'cheat' it.      And of course there would be those who would immediately claim it was a fix.

AIMHO.

If you don't answer police questions there's no way you would do a lie detector. If SY came back to them and said one suspect refused to answer questions about your missing daughter I wonder what Kate's response would be  8(0(*
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #204 on: July 23, 2015, 08:14:50 AM »
Anyone here who says that, in identical circumstances to the McCanns, they would have answered those questions is lying, pure and simple.

Offline Benice

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #205 on: July 23, 2015, 08:24:25 AM »
If you don't answer police questions there's no way you would do a lie detector. If SY came back to them and said one suspect refused to answer questions about your missing daughter I wonder what Kate's response would be  8(0(*

There is no connection between the two IMO.

Kate did not refuse to answer questions because she didn't know the answers   - she followed the advice of her lawyer.   Not much point in having a lawyer in a foreign country where you don't understand the law and he does - and then ignoring his advice.   Especially when you both know the Policemen questioning you are attempting to pin a crime on you that you didn't commit.

What is so difficult to understand about that?


     

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #206 on: July 23, 2015, 08:26:33 AM »
Lie detector tests are used in court in the US. They are used for confirmation when investigators suspect someone of lying. Anyone with enough life experience can spot a liar, the difficulty lies in proving it. Pointers exist; shifting in your seat, changing the subject when asked a question, touching your head, not using eye contact, changing tenses when answering questions, using unnecessary words for emphasis and 'distancing' from the subject (saying 'you' instead of 'I', for example).
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #207 on: July 23, 2015, 08:30:00 AM »
There is no connection between the two IMO.

Kate did not refuse to answer questions because she didn't know the answers   - she followed the advice of her lawyer.   Not much point in having a lawyer in a foreign country where you don't understand the law and he does - and then ignoring his advice.   Especially when you both know the Policemen questioning you are attempting to pin a crime on you that you didn't commit.

What is so difficult to understand about that?


   

Robert Murat refused his lawyer's advice and answered all questions. He was cleared.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #208 on: July 23, 2015, 08:31:27 AM »
Lie detector tests are used in court in the US. They are used for confirmation when investigators suspect someone of lying. Anyone with enough life experience can spot a liar, the difficulty lies in proving it. Pointers exist; shifting in your seat, changing the subject when asked a question, touching your head, not using eye contact, changing tenses when answering questions, using unnecessary words for emphasis and 'distancing' from the subject (saying 'you' instead of 'I', for example).

lie detectors confirm nothing....the McCanns do not have to demonstrate their innocence....they have not been arrested or charged...SY consider them not suspects....because there is no evidence to charge them you are trying to build acase based on innuendo and junk science,,,signs of desperation

stephen25000

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #209 on: July 23, 2015, 08:31:57 AM »
you have lost your argument by a mile

Oh dear.

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P.S. You do realize by know it was nothing to do with Trisha  ?

Mccann backers like you can argue all they like, but the fundamental truth remains, they could have done a lie detector and they didn't.

Just like the reconstruction.
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