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Offline Carana

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #300 on: July 23, 2015, 06:50:46 PM »
I  just checked the date on that Evening Standard article


McCanns offer to take lie test
   

Published: 21 January 2007

http://www.standard.co.uk/newsheadlines/mccanns-offer-to-take-lie-test-6698135.html

Maybe we should have a 100-page thread about it...

Offline Eleanor

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #301 on: July 23, 2015, 06:55:53 PM »
I  just checked the date on that Evening Standard article


McCanns offer to take lie test
   

Published: 21 January 2007

http://www.standard.co.uk/newsheadlines/mccanns-offer-to-take-lie-test-6698135.html

Maybe we should have a 100-page thread about it...

Don't anyone mention the word "Glitch."

Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #302 on: July 23, 2015, 07:53:40 PM »
to all those who say the McCanns should have taken the lie detector....

if they had and were judged to be telling the truth ....would you then disregard the dogs, the jemmied shutters....the discrepancies in the statements...the smith sighting...

would you then regard them as innocent...honest answers please
what a silly question lol
The premise is wrong  so the rest is wrong by default, try again

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #303 on: July 23, 2015, 08:01:03 PM »
what a silly question lol
The premise is wrong  so the rest is wrong by default, try again

it is a question that the McCann critics will answer....if the test found the mccanns to be telling the truth...would they accept it ...the answer is obviously no...those who have called for the test would not accept the result if it exonerated the mccanns....so tell me...

why is the premise wrong...I know you will not have an answer

Offline G-Unit

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #304 on: July 23, 2015, 08:13:34 PM »
it is a question that the McCann critics will answer....if the test found the mccanns to be telling the truth...would they accept it ...the answer is obviously no...those who have called for the test would not accept the result if it exonerated the mccanns....so tell me...

why is the premise wrong...I know you will not have an answer

The only people I can find who raised the question of the McCann's taking a polygraph  were a newspaper and an unnamed 'source'. Another interesting question is would the supporters have accepted the result if the McCann's had taken the test and failed it?
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #305 on: July 23, 2015, 08:15:58 PM »
I  just checked the date on that Evening Standard article


McCanns offer to take lie test
   

Published: 21 January 2007

http://www.standard.co.uk/newsheadlines/mccanns-offer-to-take-lie-test-6698135.html

Maybe we should have a 100-page thread about it...
Surely this proves the "abduction" was planned months in advance, yah?

Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #306 on: July 23, 2015, 08:24:40 PM »
it is a question that the McCann critics will answer....if the test found the mccanns to be telling the truth...would they accept it ...the answer is obviously no...those who have called for the test would not accept the result if it exonerated the mccanns....so tell me...

why is the premise wrong...I know you will not have an answer
You  know I will not have an answer? Are you psychic?
Well Im answering you therefore you are wrong
Your wrong premise was "all those  who demanded a lie detector test, no one did, it seems the story grew wngs by itself ie whch means from Mitchell


Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #307 on: July 23, 2015, 08:26:58 PM »
The only people I can find who raised the question of the McCann's taking a polygraph  were a newspaper and an unnamed 'source'. Another interesting question is would the supporters have accepted the result if the McCann's had taken the test and failed it?

The error rate for false positives against an innocent person is quite high.....for that reason I would say the test would have proved nothing

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #308 on: July 23, 2015, 08:27:31 PM »
it is a question that the McCann critics will answer....if the test found the mccanns to be telling the truth...would they accept it ...the answer is obviously no...those who have called for the test would not accept the result if it exonerated the mccanns....so tell me...

why is the premise wrong...I know you will not have an answer
Correct, none of those who champion the lie-detector  would accept the results if a test if it told them something contrary to their own entrenched views.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #309 on: July 23, 2015, 08:28:50 PM »
The only people I can find who raised the question of the McCann's taking a polygraph  were a newspaper and an unnamed 'source'. Another interesting question is would the supporters have accepted the result if the McCann's had taken the test and failed it?
No, because polygraph tests are not reliable and are biased against the innocent.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #310 on: July 23, 2015, 08:36:07 PM »
You  know I will not have an answer? Are you psychic?
Well Im answering you therefore you are wrong
Your wrong premise was "all those  who demanded a lie detector test, no one did, it seems the story grew wngs by itself ie whch means from Mitchell

If you are going to quote using quotation marks then you need to use the words actually posted

Offline Carana

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #311 on: July 23, 2015, 08:36:42 PM »
I was trying to find when this issue arose. The Evening Standard date wasn't particularly helpful, but this one may be more accurate:


Kate refuses lie test Sunday Express (no longer online)


Camilla Tominey
Sunday November 18,2007


They were therefore still arguidos, but they obviously wanted to fight back against all the tabloid media smears. However, in those circumstances, I'd find it highly unlikely that they'd have spontaneously offered to do a polygraph test.

What seems more likely to me is that a newspaper asked them if they'd be willing to do one, and found this chap to do it.

It was never going to be more than more sensationalist tabloid fodder that could have been twisted whatever the results.

It might appear to be a natural reaction for the innocent to want to declare that they'd be willing to do one to clear their names, but not when you've been hounded for months on end, with everyone twisting anything you do say, with no guarantees about reliability, nor even the questions that they would be allowed to answer...

And I think that they were right to be wary - the story was no longer that they had passed or failed the test, but that they refused to take one. The tabloids got their story anyway.


Offline John

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #312 on: July 23, 2015, 08:37:05 PM »
No, because polygraph tests are not reliable and are biased against the innocent.

Absolutely, the polygraph should be confined to TV shows, it has no place within the justice system and is certainly not the device it is claimed to be.  I challenge any polygraph operator to prove otherwise.

Back in 2007 I don't think the McCanns quite realised the can of worms they could be opening by agreeing to such a test.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2015, 08:39:38 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline mercury

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #313 on: July 23, 2015, 08:41:14 PM »
Absolutely, the polygraph should be confined to TV shows, it has no place within the justice system and is certainly not the device it is claimed to be.  I challenge any polygraph operator to prove otherwise.

Back in 2007 I don't think the McCanns quite realised the can of worms they could be opening by agreeing to such a test.
did they agree? and who asked them go do one???

Offline John

Re: The question of the polygraph?
« Reply #314 on: July 23, 2015, 08:44:59 PM »
did they agree? and who asked them go do one???

Several press organisations reported them as agreeing to do so should the PJ request it.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.