The Amaral theory of what happened to Madeleine.

[AnneGuedes]

So have I got this right?  Gerry buried Madeleine on the beach,

No, you haven't got it right, Benice.  Why are you pretending Inspector Amaral said Mr Mcann buried Madeleine on the beach ?

[AnneGuedes]

He gave different times in his first statement, when his memory would have been at its clearest.

The first statement has more chances to be close to reality.

[Mrs. B]

This is what Amaral said in the interview:

A – This is what we were investigating when I was dismissed from the case. I want to recall that there is an Irish man who claimed to have seen Gerry McCann with a girl in his arms, on his way towards the beach that same night. That testimony has been hidden. The dogs specialized in finding traces of blood and odour of cadaver, found both in the wall of the apartment and in the boot of the car that the McCann rented 23 days later.

Not so difficult to understand what he's trying to say, is it, really?

[AnneGuedes]

He goes to great lengths to hide the fact that he never ever met or spoke to Kate McCann, and I believe he only met Gerry once - briefly on one occasion, although I've never seen anything to confirm that myself.

Are you sure Inspector Amaral never met Mrs McCann and only briefly (when ?) Mr McCann?

[AnneGuedes]

Not so difficult to understand what he's trying to say, is it, really?

Don't you think police inspectors have to have suspicions, Mrs. B ?

[Mrs. B]

No, I don't think they do actually, I think they should look at the evidence & use common sense. Not much of that in Amaral's case though.

[DCI]

Are you sure Inspector Amaral never met Mrs McCann and only briefly (when ?) Mr McCann?

Well Kate is sure.

"And so it was that on December the 11th 2009, I first set eyes on Sr goncalo Amaral. It was also the first time he had set eyes on me. It is extraordinary that he could have said and written so many awful things about a person he had never met".

[sadie]

If the man the Smith's saw was Gerry then I would think his choice of hiding place was practical rather than strategic, in that it was probably the first place he came across. The concealing of the body, if found, could be blamed on the abductor therefore I'm not sure that the place chosen was chosen for concealment in the longterm but simply to put distance between the McCanns and the body and to bolster the story of abduction.

So as a relative stranger, Gerry was desperately walking around, looking for a suitable place to dump Madeleines body?  Is that what you are saying Faith?
Why didn't he go north then where it is quieter as it goes into the suburbs, rather than walk towards the possible action of the more central parts of PdL?   The man carrying Madeleine almost certainly knew where he was going and he was determined to get there.

As to removing the body at around 10pm rather than in the middle of the night there may be many reasons for this, among them :

1. Panicked reaction by McCanns.
2. If the body was found the time of death would be absolutely apparent so how would the McCanns explain that someone had abducted an already dead body ?
3. If seen it be much less conspicuous to be carrying around a child at 10pm when parents would be bringing their children from the crèche than in the early hours of the morning.

1. So Gerry rushed off, knowing that his absence might be noticed [but it wasn't cos he was there at the tapas] from the table.  Is that what you are saying Faith?  Doesn't make sense does it?
2.  This hypothesis doesn't make sense.  Think about it Faith.  If the body were dumped at say 1 a.m. then with no alarm being raised to the police, it is very unlikely anyone would find a body until people were around and probably not for many hours.  Too late to judge exactly how long Madeleine had been dead
3.  Yep, I agree to a certain extent
The only problem being, that where the Smiths saw bundleman and Madeleine was NOT on any route between the creche and Ocean Club.  It was about a quarter of a mile away from any route, creche > OC.

Unless you know of any bit of OC that bundleman was walking in the direction of?   Cos all that I know of is a good distance to the east of that spot.


So sorry, but NIL points ... but good try

[faithlilly]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/J-T-R-Salcedas.htm

At that time, at about 22.20 - 22.30 he noticed that there was only one person sitting at the group's table, the oldest of them and he asked her jokingly whether they had left her alone.

The person in question said that the others had gone to the apartment to look for a girl who had disappeared. Seconds later Madeleine's father appeared, greatly agitated, looking for his daughter everywhere, obviously and immediately heading towards the pool and surrounding areas.

So there's Gerry again, this time around 22.20. Not working really is it, this buying children at the beach theory?

No,i agree, burying children at the beach doesn't work. However concealing them in a disused building, municipal bin etc, hot tailing it back to the OC for the alarm, which Gerry himself was at about 10.13, does.

[faithlilly]

The Leicestershire police officers who interviewed him should have had his original statement, but didn't query the time he gave.

And ?

[AnneGuedes]

Well Kate is sure.

"And so it was that on December the 11th 2009, I first set eyes on Sr goncalo Amaral. It was also the first time he had set eyes on me. It is extraordinary that he could have said and written so many awful things about a person he had never met".

Then it is his word against hers !

[AnneGuedes]

No,i agree, burying children at the beach doesn't work.

Who doesn't remember his/her childhood and how hellish it was digging a hole in the dry sand can read Prof. Harrison's comments on this topic.

[DCI]

Then it is his word against hers !

No comment!

[AnneGuedes]

"And so it was that on December the 11th 2009, I first set eyes on Sr goncalo Amaral. It was also the first time he had set eyes on me. It is extraordinary that he could have said and written so many awful things about a person he had never met".

I was sitting just behind Mrs McCann when Mr Amaral entered the court room. Mrs Payne pushed Mrs McCann's elbow, excited like a schoolgirl noticing the director is passing by. Mrs McCann didn't even turn her head.

[Mrs. B]

No,i agree, burying children at the beach doesn't work. However concealing them in a disused building, municipal bin etc, hot tailing it back to the OC for the alarm, which Gerry himself was at about 10.13, does.

Total fantasies, do you lot never realise how utterly insane your theories are?

WHERE is the DISUSED building en route to beach (in a HOLIDAY resort)? How did Gerry McCann know about it? How did Gerry McCann know when the bins were going to be emptied? How did they retrieve the body when the police were already in place & setting up in the OC garden with loads of people running around looking everywhere.

On top of that, you think that a whole group of people (some who hardly even knew the McCanns) were happy to be in on a massive conspiracy theory to cover up the death of a child?

How did the "body" get into the car three weeks later?