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stephen25000

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The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« on: June 28, 2013, 07:57:01 AM »
In her interview Jane Hill doesn't ask Kate whether she ever searched or not.    She asked if she hadn't felt she wanted to join in with the searches by the locals, which began in earnest the next morning  and continued for many days - it was that period of time she was referring to.     Kate's, reply begins with... 'I mean, I did' - which to some people apparently translates as  ....'I mean, I didn't'

On the 4th May they spent the day at the police station. When they got back hundreds of reporters had arrived. The chances of Kate or Gerry being able to go out and search themselves once that happened was nil.   They would have been mobbed on sight.

Don't you know the Mccanns lack of searching that night was common knowledge in PDL, so don't kid yourself.

As to the interview with Jane Hill, watch again without blinkers.
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Offline Benice

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2013, 08:41:05 AM »
Don't you know the Mccanns lack of searching that night was common knowledge in PDL, so don't kid yourself.

As to the interview with Jane Hill, watch again without blinkers.

The evidence that they searched that night is in several witness statements in the PJ files.   Maybe you should try reading them instead of listening to your friend  - who, unless he knew the McCanns, could not have the slightest  idea what they did that night.   Local gossip isn't evidence either.

If you can give me a quote where Kate says she never once searched for her daughter - I'd be interested to see it.   The interviewer was not talking about searches which happened the night Madeleine was abducted, she was referring to the days following when locals and holidaymakers gave up their time and spent the rest of the week searching.   I see you have ignored the fact that the presence 100s of reporters - all waiting for the McCanns, would have made it impossible for them to join those people.       

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2013, 08:45:39 AM »
The evidence that they searched that night is in several witness statements in the PJ files.   Maybe you should try reading them instead of listening to your friend  - who, unless he knew the McCanns, could not have the slightest  idea what they did that night.   Local gossip isn't evidence either.

If you can give me a quote where Kate says she never once searched for her daughter - I'd be interested to see it.   The interviewer was not talking about searches which happened the night Madeleine was abducted, she was referring to the days following when locals and holidaymakers gave up their time and spent the rest of the week searching.   I see you have ignored the fact that the presence 100s of reporters - all waiting for the McCanns, would have made it impossible for them to join those people.       

Well please provide unequivocal proof she physically searched for her daughter, other than the stroll on the beach the following morning.

She, as you know lied in her book, saying no one else was searching for Madeleine, other than them.

Offline Benice

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 09:05:59 AM »
Well please provide unequivocal proof she physically searched for her daughter, other than the stroll on the beach the following morning.

She, as you know lied in her book, saying no one else was searching for Madeleine, other than them.

Read the witness statements Stephen.

They didn't meet another soul whilst they were out searching so what would you expect them to think during that time?  Especially as they knew the PJ had left and were not planning to come back until after 9.00.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 09:10:04 AM »
Read the witness statements Stephen.

They didn't meet another soul whilst they were out searching so what would you expect them to think during that time?  Especially as they knew the PJ had left and were not planning to come back until after 9.00.

Utter rubbish.

It was all over the news services, at the time and since then, and don't  tell me they didn't know about it.

Stop making excuses for the inexcusable.

Offline Benice

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 09:23:46 AM »
Utter rubbish.

It was all over the news services, at the time and since then, and don't  tell me they didn't know about it.

Stop making excuses for the inexcusable.

What was all over the news services?  I thought it was not until the next morning that anything appeared on TV - after Kate and Gerry had been out searching.

What excuses?   I'm going on what is said in the witness statements about Gerry and Kate going out searching. You're going on what your friend said - who was not a witness to anything the McCanns did that night -and relies on local gossip.





The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Carana

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 09:25:41 AM »
Quite a few of the people who had been out searching only went to bed at around 3-4 am. So they'd have still been asleep when the parents went out at daybreak.

stephen25000

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 09:28:07 AM »
What was all over the news services?  I thought it was not until the next morning that anything appeared on TV - after Kate and Gerry had been out searching.

What excuses?   I'm going on what is said in the witness statements about Gerry and Kate going out searching. You're going on what your friend said - who was not a witness to anything the McCanns did that night -and relies on local gossip.


Try not to be obtuse.

THE FACT THAT MANY PEOPLE SEARCHED FOR MADELEINE THAT NIGHT IS VERY WELL KNOWN.

So why she lied about it, that is the question, and not difficult to answer.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 09:42:23 AM »
Quite a few of the people who had been out searching only went to bed at around 3-4 am. So they'd have still been asleep when the parents went out at daybreak.

If the parents could search at daybreak, why not the rest of the night ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

stephen25000

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2013, 09:52:04 AM »
If the parents could search at daybreak, why not the rest of the night ?


That Faithlilly is precisely the point.

Perhaps it was too dark and scary for them to go and search for their beloved daughter ?

Offline Benice

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 10:47:32 AM »

Try not to be obtuse.

THE FACT THAT MANY PEOPLE SEARCHED FOR MADELEINE THAT NIGHT IS VERY WELL KNOWN.

So why she lied about it, that is the question, and not difficult to answer.

Try not to be so rude Stephen whenever you are faced with facts that don't suit your agenda.   
Kate described the scene as they saw it - i.e. empty of people.  Nothing whatseover to do with lylng.

If you think she lied - then tell us why.



   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline faithlilly

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 10:56:57 AM »
Try not to be so rude Stephen whenever you are faced with facts that don't suit your agenda.   
Kate described the scene as they saw it - i.e. empty of people.  Nothing whatseover to do with lylng.

If you think she lied - then tell us why.



 

Perhaps if she had left the apartment before daybreak she may have 'saw it ' differently ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 10:57:43 AM »
If the parents could search at daybreak, why not the rest of the night ?
Did they search ? They never pretended this (before "Madeleine"). I think they needed some privacy. They hadn't be alone practically since the alert on the disappearance.

stephen25000

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Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 11:12:19 AM »
Try not to be so rude Stephen whenever you are faced with facts that don't suit your agenda.   
Kate described the scene as they saw it - i.e. empty of people.  Nothing whatseover to do with lylng.

If you think she lied - then tell us why.



 

No agenda.

How long was the gap between that night and writing the book ?

More than enough time to check her 'facts'.

She wrote that rubbish in the book, amongst others in an attempt to gain sympathy.

Trouble is, some people do know the truth.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The searching question about...SEARCHING?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 11:15:42 AM »
Did they search ? They never pretended this (before "Madeleine"). I think they needed some privacy. They hadn't be alone practically since the alert on the disappearance.

I believe a member of the PJ saw them on their daybreak 'search' Anne but as you say that outing could have been undertaken to gain privacy rather than actually search.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?