Is It Groundhog Day ?

[sadie]

Speaking of a MBE, this is pleonastic.

pleonastic ?

Oh, Yeah Right! 

[AnneGuedes]

Quote from: Faithlilly on Today at 12:46:12 PM

    With Grime they can insinuate that financial interest played a part in his dog's reactions, not so with Harrison

Not so Faith.   Unconscious cueing is something which happens only between a handler and his dog.   No-one else is involved.

What do you mean, Benice ? That unconscious cueing doesn't happen between a handler and his boss, in this case, Prof Harrison MBE ?

[sadie]

Quote from: Faithlilly on Today at 12:46:12 PM

    With Grime they can insinuate that financial interest played a part in his dog's reactions, not so with Harrison
What do you mean, Benice ? That unconscious cueing doesn't happen between a handler and his boss, in this case, Prof Harrison MBE ?

Prof Harrison his boss?   I always thought that it was Grimes own business.  where do you get Prof Harrison being his boss from Anne?

[AnneGuedes]

Prof Harrison his boss?   I always thought that it was Grimes own business.  where do you get Prof Harrison being his boss from Anne?

Prof Harrison MBE was the head of the cadaver and blood dogs operation. He suggested it, organized it, observed it, i.e cautioned it.

[sadie]

Prof Harrison MBE was the head of the cadaver and blood dogs operation. He suggested it, organized it, observed it, i.e cautioned it.

Maybe, but he wasn't the boss was he?  It was Grimes own business, wasn't it?

[ferryman]

Faith Lilly:

1. All the inspections were described as PJ exercise, nothing telling in that.

Wrong!  Harrison acknowledged UK involvement in all those searches he recommended: the holiday apartments, the Murats' place and areas in and around PdL

In those inspections Harrison did not recommend (such as the villa and the gym) he described them as PJ exercises.

While Harrison did recommend an inspection of vehicles, only 2 (of 3) cars he recommended be inspected made the final line-up of 10.  Harrison gave no clue who took part in that exercise.

It's all documented.
2. Notice the word 'relevant'.

From Harrison's rogatory statement :

How did the searches evolve ?

Between the 31.07.2007 and 07.08.2007 the searches took place in Praia da Luz were under the command and supervision of the Chief Inspector Vitor MATOS of the PJ. He was personally present at the searches and at his request I accompanied him as an advisor. The searches evolved were multidisciplinary and involved the PJ, GNR, UK Police and the University of Aveiro. All the searches that occurred were documented in video by the PJ, including location, time and date stamps.

Harrison found a form of diplobabble-speak for saying he was presented with the fait-accompli of searches he nothing to do with.

[ferryman]

Here, for example, is what Harrison had to say about inspection of vehicles:

Murat's Vehicles.

All vehicles Murat has had access to have been forensically examined to recover any surface trace evidence however they may all benefit from a full search by the EVRD and CSI dogs. They may be able to detect whether a dead body has been transported in one of the vehicles for intelligence purposes or detect human blood deposits that can be recovered and
examined in a laboratory for Madeleine McCann's blood.

A car Murat hired never made the line-up, while 8 cars Harrison said nothing about made the line-up, including the McCanns' Renault which (as we know) turned out to be the only car of real interest (at least to humans).

The canine interest had to be cajoled ...

[AnneGuedes]

Harrison found a form of diplobabble-speak for saying he was presented with the fait-accompli of searches he nothing to do with.

Pas de fait accompli du tout, Ferryman, Prof Harrison was delicate enough to advise and not to impose, since he was very aware the pride of a country that had searched restlessly Madeleine had to be preserved. You can criticize Amaral a thousand times and I'll likely agree with you on a few topics, but you have to acknowledge the great respect he betrays for Prof Harrison.

[ferryman]

Anne:

This is Mark Harrison's summary of searches, disproving Faith's claim above that all searches were described by Harrison as PJ exercises:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 
On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.
 
On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.
 
On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.
 
Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa.
 
On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.
 
On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.
 
On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.
 
On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.
 
On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by PJ officers.

Note that in those searches Harrison recommended, he acknowledges UK participation: the holiday apartments, the Murats' place and areas in and around PdL.

That's it!

Harrison did recommend an inspection of vehicles, but only 2 (of 3) cars he recommended be inspected made the final line-up of 10.

Harrison gave no clue who took part in that exercise ....
 

[faithlilly]

Faith Lilly:

1. All the inspections were described as PJ exercise, nothing telling in that.

Wrong!  Harrison acknowledged UK involvement in all those searches he recommended: the holiday apartments, the Murats' place and areas in and around PdL

In those inspections Harrison did not recommend (such as the villa and the gym) he described them as PJ exercises.

While Harrison did recommend an inspection of vehicles, only 2 (of 3) cars he recommended be inspected made the final line-up of 10.  Harrison gave no clue who took part in that exercise.

It's all documented.
2. Notice the word 'relevant'.

From Harrison's rogatory statement :

How did the searches evolve ?

Between the 31.07.2007 and 07.08.2007 the searches took place in Praia da Luz were under the command and supervision of the Chief Inspector Vitor MATOS of the PJ. He was personally present at the searches and at his request I accompanied him as an advisor. The searches evolved were multidisciplinary and involved the PJ, GNR, UK Police and the University of Aveiro. All the searches that occurred were documented in video by the PJ, including location, time and date stamps.

Harrison found a form of diplobabble-speak for saying he was presented with the fait-accompli of searches he nothing to do with.

So Harrison recommended and was present, along with British officers, during the search of the only place where we can be certain, with the help of Keela, that Eddie was not alerting to blood but cadaver scent, 5a.

Thanks for that ferryman.

[stephen25000]

Rude again

You say that you are a teacher ?  Have I got that right ?

How about somne facts Stephen?

Don't try talking about being rude when you insult posters who don't agree with you regularly.

[sadie]

Don't try talking about being rude when you insult posters who don't agree with you regularly.

I only ever reciprocate Stephen