The facts: Madeleine McCann is alive and well or a long time deceased.

[Redblossom]

Not the bible again, you are fixated on fiction. We all KNOW what Salomon did. If found, she will be returned to her family, regardless. It's simply the law, live with it.

Who is *salomon*? And what did he do?

[AnneGuedes]

Who is *salomon*? And what did he do?

Solomon is the wisest of all kings of Israel according to the Bible, he's the son David made to Bathsheba instead of carrying out the funerary rituals for the death of his child. His famous judgement (he decides in favour of the woman who prefers the child living far from her than dead with her, the woman who lets the other have her rights on that child's life to preserve this child's life) was studied in the theory of games : in the impossibility of establishing the truth, put both parts in an unbearable situation that will force one to change strategy.

[Benice]

Who is *salomon*? And what did he do?

He was a wise king in the Bible who decreed that a baby belonged to its natural mother and not to a woman who was falsely claiming the baby was hers.

[faithlilly]

If is for the benefit of the child that she has to returned to her parents & family, she has two siblings & an extended family. If, being held captive, she may also be aware that she IS a missing child. Severe forms of punishment for those who are involved in child snatching & trafficking is of paramount importance to society as a whole.

And if Madeleine wants  to stay with her 'adopted' family ?

[Redblossom]

He was a wise king in the Bible who decreed that a baby belonged to its natural mother and not to a woman who was falsely claiming the baby was hers.

Just getting my own back for attacks on spellos, its SOLOMON btw
 

Thanks and to you Anne, but who cares what the stupid bible says, solomon didnt refuse to help the police when his son was missing, even if kate was sooooo devout, she must have thought praying instead of searching will have worked
 >@@(*&)

 

[AnneGuedes]

He was a wise king in the Bible who decreed that a baby belonged to its natural mother and not to a woman who was falsely claiming the baby was hers.

I'm sorry, Benice, but it's more complex than that. Both women are prostitutes, their babies have no father and are born about the same day, one of the babies dies during the night. How would you know who is the natural mother of the surviving one ?

[Carana]

I'm sorry, Benice, but it's more complex than that. Both women are prostitutes, their babies have no father and are born about the same day, one of the babies dies during the night. How would you know who is the natural mother of the surviving one ?

What is the relationship between that story, the 21st century and Madeleine's disappearance?

[AnneGuedes]

What is the relationship between that story, the 21st century and Madeleine's disappearance?

Well Judeo Christianism is the cradle of our civilisation, the 21st century hasn't popped up from nowhere. Solomon judgement, it seems, really occurred and I think it's an excellent opportunity to meditate on what justice and fairness are. Solomon is only a man who reflects mobilizing all resources that his emotions and his empathy capacities allow.
Even if Madeleine living now in a loving family is very likely fiction.

[John]

It is a well known phenomenon that abductees often form an affinity with their abductors over a period of time even when kept in poor conditions.  As mentioned in another post Madeleine will most probably not even remember her past life or those who were in it.  This is where the internet comes into it's own by promoting her image far beyond the reach of the local newspapers.  If she is still alive then her best hope is that one day she might come across her image on line and recognise herself, the rest would be up to her.

[Rachel Granada]

It is a well known phenomenon that abductees often form an affinity with their abductors over a period of time even when kept in poor conditions.  As mentioned in another post Madeleine will most probably not even remember her past life or those who were in it.  This is where the internet comes into it's own by promoting her image far beyond the reach of the local newspapers.  If she is still alive then her best hope is that one day she might come across her image on line and recognise herself, the rest would be up to her.

I think it is called Stockholm Syndrome, John.

[Benice]

Well Judeo Christianism is the cradle of our civilisation, the 21st century hasn't popped up from nowhere. Solomon judgement, it seems, really occurred and I think it's an excellent opportunity to meditate on what justice and fairness are. Solomon is only a man who reflects mobilizing all resources that his emotions and his empathy capacities allow.
Even if Madeleine living now in a loving family is very likely fiction.

If Solomon was asked to pronounce on Madeleine now living with another family, I think he would decide that anyone cruel enough to steal another mother's baby was not a fit person to keep her - and just as before - he would decree that she be returned to her rightful mother.

[AnneGuedes]

I think it is called Stockholm Syndrome, John.

Yes it is, but often caricatured. We're woven with affects. If the human being can't express emotions, if sensitivity is blocked, survival is at risk.

[AnneGuedes]

If Solomon was asked to pronounce on Madeleine now living with another family, I think he would decide that anyone cruel enough to steal another mother's baby was not a fit person to keep her - and just as before - he would decree that she be returned to her rightful mother.

A woman or a man who steals a child can't be a loving and ethical person. This is why I think this scenario is nothing but fiction.
Solomon had a relatively simple moral case to judge : the mother was the one who preferred having the child alive with another woman than a dead child. His genius was the trick he used (threatening to cut the child in two parts) to determine which of the two women was deserving the child. But the child was a new born, not a 10 yrs old !
I know a case, a new born abducted from a clinic by a woman. When found, the little girl was 2 years old, she was adored by grand parents, aunts and uncles who thought she was theirs. Her biological parents, a very young couple, had just had a new baby... It was a drama. They got help and a sort of modus vivendi was found : the little girl had two families, and still has.

[sadie]

Oh my.

gobbledygook, aint it?   

sorry Anne, I know that you are not British so certain things can willingly be excused

However, it almost seems that you are trying to blind us with your magnificent knowledge


This aint a thesis to impress the University professors - we are just ordinary guys


Plain, simple english, Anne ... if you dont mind.

Ta !

[John]

Do you know of any abductees who would prefer to stay with their abductor?

Not personally but I have heard of many such cases over the years.  The more recent classic example would be the white girl abducted/captured/stolen by red Indians who went on to live within the reservation out if choice and even when rescued returned to the tribe since she considered them to be her family and not the white man.