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Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #150 on: August 01, 2013, 04:10:35 PM »
The Madeleine calling to her parents suggestion is a myth.  Any parent will know that should an almost 4-year-old even manage to open a sliding patio door and walk out onto a balcony they are most unlikely to close the door again.  Neither the McCanns nor Matthew Oldfield found the patio door ajar.  Another myth debunked unfortunately.

And if Madeleine had fallen do really think either Gerry or Oldfield would have admitted finding the door ajar ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #151 on: August 01, 2013, 04:11:49 PM »
I accept that Stephen, but it sure blows a hole in the theory that, ?was it, Faith suggested, of Madeleine using a chair to try and see her  parents.



Instead of always knocking, Stephen, how about you coming up with something that progresses our thinking?

How does it possibly do that sadie ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Rachel Granada

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #152 on: August 01, 2013, 04:17:46 PM »
And if Madeleine had fallen do really think either Gerry or Oldfield would have admitted finding the door ajar ?

I honestly believe that if Madeleine had fallen and been badly injured, that they would have got an ambulance for her immediately.  Just my opinion, Faithlilly - I just can't fathom that they would cover up an accident.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #153 on: August 01, 2013, 04:20:05 PM »
I honestly believe that if Madeleine had fallen and been badly injured, that they would have got an ambulance for her immediately.  Just my opinion, Faithlilly - I just can't fathom that they would cover up an accident.

And if she was dead and it could be proved her parents were in the tapas bar at the time ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Rachel Granada

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #154 on: August 01, 2013, 04:26:40 PM »
And if she was dead and it could be proved her parents were in the tapas bar at the time ?

Believe me, I've thought about this case from all angles.  If that had happened - say Gerry had come back and found that Madeleine had sadly passed away at 9pm then there is just no way that they could have set it all in motion in just one hour before the alarm was raised.  It's just not possible.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #155 on: August 01, 2013, 04:47:38 PM »
Believe me, I've thought about this case from all angles.  If that had happened - say Gerry had come back and found that Madeleine had sadly passed away at 9pm then there is just no way that they could have set it all in motion in just one hour before the alarm was raised.  It's just not possible.

Set all what in motion ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #156 on: August 01, 2013, 05:29:38 PM »
Faith

I have had to modify the post at the top of this page, cos now the forum has changed.... and it seems that quotes are chopped out.

Without the quotes, it did not show your questions. 



As I said before my long post was only answering your questions

I cannot think why you made your comment about my long answer.  Obfuscatioin?  You knew they were three answers answering YOUR questions

Thoroughly.

Redblossom

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #157 on: August 01, 2013, 05:37:01 PM »
Believe me, I've thought about this case from all angles.  If that had happened - say Gerry had come back and found that Madeleine had sadly passed away at 9pm then there is just no way that they could have set it all in motion in just one hour before the alarm was raised.  It's just not possible.

You cant *assume* anything, timewise, there is a 5 hour gap almost where anything could have happened.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #158 on: August 01, 2013, 06:42:14 PM »
Faith

I have had to modify the post at the top of this page, cos now the forum has changed.... and it seems that quotes are chopped out.

Without the quotes, it did not show your questions. 



As I said before my long post was only answering your questions

I cannot think why you made your comment about my long answer.  Obfuscatioin?  You knew they were three answers answering YOUR questions

Thoroughly.

I made me comment because it was nonsense, for all the reasons I have already posted.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Redblossom

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #159 on: August 01, 2013, 07:09:44 PM »
And THIS is the reason that the Mccanns speak in oxymorons when they say there is no evidence of any harm(as brought up earlier in the thread)  but in the next breath say are given hope by these three women found years after



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382530/Cleveland-kidnap-victim-speak-court-horrific-abuse-Ariel-Castro-sentenced.html


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Rachel Granada

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #160 on: August 01, 2013, 07:26:17 PM »
You cant *assume* anything, timewise, there is a 5 hour gap almost where anything could have happened.

Fair enough Redblossom.  How did they "do it" in that 5 hour gap? Interested to hear your take because I just can't fathom that Kate and Gerry McCann could have discovered that Madeleine had passed away and then cleaned up and covered it all up in that short time-frame.  Does not stack up to me.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #161 on: August 01, 2013, 07:38:15 PM »
Fair enough Redblossom.  How did they "do it" in that 5 hour gap? Interested to hear your take because I just can't fathom that Kate and Gerry McCann could have discovered that Madeleine had passed away and then cleaned up and covered it all up in that short time-frame.  Does not stack up to me.

Madeleine falls awkwardly from the balcony into the flowerbed and is killed by either a broken neck or head injury. What exactly would there be to 'clean up' ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Rachel Granada

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #162 on: August 01, 2013, 08:38:22 PM »
Madeleine falls awkwardly from the balcony into the flowerbed and is killed by either a broken neck or head injury. What exactly would there be to 'clean up' ?

So how did they do it from there then?  Dispose of her remains so they were never found, with out a car? Go back to dinner as if nothing had happened? Or roped all their friends in on a cover up within about an hour or so?

Redblossom

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #163 on: August 01, 2013, 08:40:30 PM »
Fair enough Redblossom.  How did they "do it" in that 5 hour gap? Interested to hear your take because I just can't fathom that Kate and Gerry McCann could have discovered that Madeleine had passed away and then cleaned up and covered it all up in that short time-frame.  Does not stack up to me.

it has nothing to do with what you can fathom

And I dont have any*take* because I have not thought about it in any detail

I DO know they have  lied several times over the years and  I wouldnt trust them as far as I could throw them!


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AnneGuedes

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Re: The sad mantra about neglect
« Reply #164 on: August 01, 2013, 10:27:29 PM »
Madeleine falls awkwardly from the balcony into the flowerbed and is killed by either a broken neck or head injury. What exactly would there be to 'clean up' ?
Nothing to "clean up", many haemorrhages are internal. No sign, no nothing.
Either Madeleine fell over the balcony or fell from the chair on the hard balcony tiles when trying to see better if her parents were the people she heard talking and laughing.
If so molecules would have been drifted to the flower bed by wind, by rain.