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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2013, 08:01:40 AM »

When was he removed from the case ?

October 2007, as you very well know.   8-)(--)

Offline Eleanor

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2013, 08:28:31 AM »

The retirement was linked to the shelving.  He had to retire AND wait for the shelving before he could publish his rotten book.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2013, 08:30:35 AM »

So the retirement was linked to the shelving ?

Claptrap.

You will have to do a lot better than that.

Disappointment 8-)(--) 8-)(--)


Oh dear.  Perhaps you may find the following passage sheds a little light on the subject (and from a source you may find to your liking). 

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Date 30 June 2008

The former coordinator at the Polícia Judiciária for the “Madeleine McCann” case, inspector Gonçalo Amaral, told Lusa today that he is retiring from the PJ mainly to attain “plenitude of freedom of expression” and to consequently be able to defend himself.

Gonçalo Amaral, aged 48, started working as a civil servant at the age of 14, and today lives his last day at the service of the Polícia Judiciária, after recently having been the most exposed PJ inspector in the Portuguese and British media, for having coordinated the case of “Madeleine McCann”, the little English girl that disappeared in the Algarve on the 3rd of May of 2007.

In an interview to Lusa, Gonçalo Amaral explained that he is retiring at the age of 48 in order to “have plenitude of freedom of expression”.

“Why do I leave? I leave because I understand that the only way to acquire the plenitude of my freedom of expression is to leave the police. Because at this moment, to defend myself, I have to reacquire my freedom of expression”, he said.

The exercise of that freedom of expression starts this month, with the publication of a book about the Maddie case, in case – as it is foreseen – the judicial secrecy on the process is lifted.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/06/algarve-gonalo-amaral-leaves-pj-in.html#comment-form

stephen25000

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2013, 08:38:25 AM »

Oh dear.  Perhaps you may find the following passage sheds a little light on the subject (and from a source you may find to your liking). 

__________________

Date 30 June 2008

The former coordinator at the Polícia Judiciária for the “Madeleine McCann” case, inspector Gonçalo Amaral, told Lusa today that he is retiring from the PJ mainly to attain “plenitude of freedom of expression” and to consequently be able to defend himself.

Gonçalo Amaral, aged 48, started working as a civil servant at the age of 14, and today lives his last day at the service of the Polícia Judiciária, after recently having been the most exposed PJ inspector in the Portuguese and British media, for having coordinated the case of “Madeleine McCann”, the little English girl that disappeared in the Algarve on the 3rd of May of 2007.

In an interview to Lusa, Gonçalo Amaral explained that he is retiring at the age of 48 in order to “have plenitude of freedom of expression”.

“Why do I leave? I leave because I understand that the only way to acquire the plenitude of my freedom of expression is to leave the police. Because at this moment, to defend myself, I have to reacquire my freedom of expression”, he said.

The exercise of that freedom of expression starts this month, with the publication of a book about the Maddie case, in case – as it is foreseen – the judicial secrecy on the process is lifted.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/06/algarve-gonalo-amaral-leaves-pj-in.html#comment-form

OK.

Now I see, but is this of importance in the context of cooperation between the PJ and SY ?

Bearing in mind the distrust the Portuguese feel towards this country in this case is well founded.

Also, SY or some posters here doesn't need to give the PJ any lectures on competency bearing in mind the history of  SY in this regard.

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2013, 08:48:29 AM »
By that logic, taxpayers money should be paid to investiagte all missing children or people.

Don't you agree ?

Yes.
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2013, 08:52:13 AM »
Stephen.

An oblique answer your questions. 

My personal view is that if a "turf war" between SY and the PJ are standing in the way of either finding Madeleine alive or finding out what happened to her and who was responsible, then all concerned should hang their heads in shame. 

Offline Albertini

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2013, 08:53:30 AM »
Stephen.

An oblique answer your questions. 

My personal view is that if a "turf war" between SY and the PJ are standing in the way of either finding Madeleine alive or finding out what happened to her and who was responsible, then all concerned should hang their heads in shame.

I absolutely agree with that sentiment.

stephen25000

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2013, 08:57:56 AM »
Yes.

OK.

Now so far according to reports it has cost the tax payer approx £5 million.

Let's assume the following article is correct.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-missing-each-year-275000-britons-disappear-1801010.html

So some simple maths.

£275,000 x £5,000,000 = £1,375,000,000,000

Never going to happen
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2013, 09:01:48 AM »
I absolutely agree with that sentiment.

Good heavens!   8)--))

stephen25000

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2013, 09:05:45 AM »
Stephen.

An oblique answer your questions. 

My personal view is that if a "turf war" between SY and the PJ are standing in the way of either finding Madeleine alive or finding out what happened to her and who was responsible, then all concerned should hang their heads in shame.

I agree.

A lot of the problems in terms of abuse that has resulted in this impasse has come form the UK press and quite possibly the damage done to relations is presently beyond repair.

Offline sadie

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2013, 11:43:08 AM »
and you are ?
Chinagirl is a much respected poster and of much higher professional status than most people of your profession.


stephen25000

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2013, 12:29:15 PM »
Chinagirl is a much respected poster and of much higher professional status than most people of your profession.

How do you what her 'qualifications' are ?

What relevance do they have to this case ?

Anyone can say anything on the net, doesn't mean it's true or do you place some people on a pedestal above others, as you do the Mccanns ?


Offline sadie

Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2013, 01:22:38 PM »
How do you what her 'qualifications' are ?
I know because it was on public record

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What relevance do they have to this case ?
Only replying to your post #83 which was " And you are? " referring to China girl

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Anyone can say anything on the net, doesn't mean it's true or do you place some people on a pedestal above others, as you do the Mccanns ?

No I was only replying in kind to your agressive response to Chinagirl ... and telling you the truth.  She has been a long time poster and has shown an indepth perception that few have.  She doesn't rely on myths.

And, it is a fact, that she does carry a status professionally much higher than most (in the Education field).   Does that worry you?
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stephen25000

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Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?
« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2013, 01:28:47 PM »
I know because it was on public record
Only replying to your post #83 which was " And you are? " referring to China girl

No I was only replying in kind to your agressive response to Chinagirl ... and telling you the truth.  She has been a long time poster and has shown an indepth perception that few have.  She doesn't rely on myths.

And, it is a fact, that she does carry a status professionally much higher than most (in the Education field).   Does that worry you?

Not in the slightest, but it does seem to bother to you.

Her perception as you call it, as it is your, the Mccanns have done nothing wrong.

As to the myths from those  whom you call allies, and your 'stories'. Well if others want to reach words of fiction, so be it.