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Redblossom

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The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« on: August 02, 2013, 08:37:24 PM »
Kate Mccann in her book says she mentioned this worry to the police that night and several other times over the weeks


But they never got her kids tested she alledges


Is there anything to support these statements?
I have read that she refused it when the pj wanted to do it but i have no proof of this



And if she was so worried why didnt she get them tested...until four months later? And which according to her book was a barber of seville job???? Which can be nothing but a total exageration

"The process seemed to take ages and we all lost loads of hair. I couldn't believe they had to take so much. The scientist cut chunks of it from Sean and Amelie's heads while they were sleeping. I cried as I heard the scissors in their baby-blond hair. I felt angry that the children had to go through this further insult. As for me, I looked as if I had alopecia."

Why did she and her husband not take their  kids to a and e?? To get checked out may 3 or 4????


Oh and

The McCanns curious behaviour as witnessed by Inspector Ricardo Paiva

Processos Vol X
Pages 2533 - 2534

Date: 2007/09/03

For : Goncalo Amaral

From Ricardo Paiva, Inspector

Subject: Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

During the course of the ongoing investigation, various personal contacts were made by the undersigned with Kate and Gerald McCann, within my task of serving as communication element between the police and the McCann couple.

Within this context, the undersigned was present during various "strange" behaviours by the couple, who gradually began to react in a very negative manner to the increased investigative activity carried out by this police force, especially during the use of the English sniffer dogs for detecting cadaver odour, when more evidence arose in the investigation for the hypothesis of the death of Madeleine McCann.

Several times, the McCann couple said that the attention of the police should be maintained focussing on the abduction hypothesis, which, in the couple's opinion, was the only scenario that occurred and that the police should not forget to continue to investigate the suspect Robert Murat.

Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5ยช of the Ocean Club, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl.



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stephen25000

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 08:54:00 PM »
Kate Mccann in her book says she mentioned this worry to the police that night and several other times over the weeks


But they never got her kids tested she alledges


Is there anything to support these statements?

And if she was so worried why didnt she get them tested...until four months later? And which according to her book was a barber of seville job????

"The process seemed to take ages and we all lost loads of hair. I couldn't believe they had to take so much. The scientist cut chunks of it from Sean and Amelie's heads while they were sleeping. I cried as I heard the scissors in their baby-blond hair. I felt angry that the children had to go through this further insult. As for me, I looked as if I had alopecia."

Why did she and her husband not take their  kids to a and e?? To get checked out may 3 or 4????

Indeed.

Even allowing for the shock of the 'disappearance ' of Madeleine, and claiming to be an anesthetist, which having checked records, is not true, KM or her husband should have had the children checked out, as should have the PJ.

THE LACK OF THIS CHECK DEFIES ALL REASONED LOGIC AND IF THEY BELIEVED THE CHILDREN HAD BEEN DRUGGED TO MASK AN 'ABDUCTION', IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LOGICAL STEP TO DEMAND IT.

SO WAS THERE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE AS TO WHY THEY DID NOT ?

Note by Editor> A person can be qualified as an anaesthetist but not be currently listed on the BMA register.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2013, 02:51:26 PM by John »

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 09:52:46 PM »
Why didn't Amaral ask for it to be done?

Even after four months nail scrapings [correct me if I'm wrong] would have shown evidence of drugs.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2013, 02:46:30 PM by John »

Redblossom

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 09:56:19 PM »
Why didn't Amaral ask for it to be done?

Even after four months nail scrapings [correct me if I'm wrong] would have shown evidence of drugs.

No use passing  the buck



Offline Lace

Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 10:04:16 PM »
No use passing  the buck

I am not.

Amaral was the one bringing up the calpol.   If he thought Madeleine had been drugged why didn't he test the twins?

Redblossom

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 10:15:50 PM »
I am not.

Amaral was the one bringing up the calpol.   If he thought Madeleine had been drugged why didn't he test the twins?

No dear, kate mccann brought up  the drugging from early on, she did NOTHING about it, nothing to do  with any part of amarals  theory months later

Offline Lace

Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 10:17:22 PM »
No dear, kate mccann brought up  the drugging from early on, she did NOTHING about it, nothing to do  with any part of amarals  theory months later

If Amaral knew Kate McCann had brought it up why didn't he test the twins?

Redblossom

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 10:22:45 PM »
If Amaral knew Kate McCann had brought it up why didn't he test the twins?

before you get your next hammer for amaral, pls provide a cite where kate asked for her kids to be tested and the police said no

Catchyou tomorrow now

Offline Lace

Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 10:24:49 PM »
before you get your next hammer for amaral, pls provide a cite where kate asked for her kids to be tested and the police said no

Catchyou tomorrow now

Well they didn't do anything did they.


Redblossom

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 10:30:00 PM »
Well they didn't do anything did they.

Exactly the mccanns did nothing  about it until FOUR MONTHS later, that should tell u something


and i wonder what it does tell u

Bye now lace


Offline Lace

Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 10:38:58 PM »
Exactly the mccanns did nothing  about it until FOUR MONTHS later, that should tell u something


and i wonder what it does tell u

Bye now lace
It could be they couldn't do anything.   It might look as though they were acting suspiciously getting tests for their children.    Some might say 'are they worried the PJ might find something and they want to get a story together'  The police on the other hand,  when hearing that Kate McCann was worried incase the twins had been drugged should have tested them.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 10:49:03 PM »

Even after four months nail scrapings [correct me if I'm wrong] would have shown evidence of drugs.
It depends on the drug. But there are some practically undetectable after 24 hours.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 10:57:57 PM »
The police on the other hand,  when hearing that Kate McCann was worried incase the twins had been drugged should have tested them.
Two of the UK liaison police officers, on the 5th of May, thought it was pertinent to report  the parents had asked many times (to the PJ through the LPO) whether the scientific police had discovered any trace of sedation, but they didn't suggest the twins, the best proof of all, should be tested.
BTW administrating 3 kids a sedation without their cooperation, silently and in a few minutes is totally impossible. Curiously the McCanns never developed on that delicate issue.

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Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 10:59:34 PM »
I am not.

Amaral was the one bringing up the calpol.   If he thought Madeleine had been drugged why didn't he test the twins?
Exactly

The passing of the buck to Kate and Gerry here, is an echo of the passing of the buck about the crime scene not being secured.

It was the Polices job, not Kate and Gerrys

Offline sadie

Re: The suggestion that the kids may have been sedated issue.
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2013, 11:08:35 PM »
Two of the UK liaison police officers, on the 5th of May, thought it was pertinent to report  the parents had asked many times (to the PJ through the LPO) whether the scientific police had discovered any trace of sedation, but they didn't suggest the twins, the best proof of all, should be tested.
BTW administrating 3 kids a sedation without their cooperation, silently and in a few minutes is totally impossible. Curiously the McCanns never developed on that delicate issue.
So the Mccanns by May 5th had asked many times about whether the scientific Police  had discoverd any sedation, yet none was done.

Anne the only way that I can think of that the police could do those tests was on the twins.  No other way that I can see, when Madeleine was gone.  So even if the word, "twins" wasn't actually used, it was obvious who was meant.  I think I am right there, am I?


I keep wondering if all three were given a sleeping draft, or something to sedate them in their "hot Chocolate" or a sweetie  etc at tea time.  Madeleine was so tired that she had to be carried home (according to Gerry IIRC.)  This was at only 5.35pm  ish.  Might she have been given a double dose?