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Offline Carana

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2013, 10:56:07 AM »
Did that scenario happen ? Is it a "look like" that could boost your memory ?

Several children / or perpetrators have been found thanks to high profiles.

Offline Carana

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2013, 10:57:25 AM »
Well, perhaps we could agree to leave Savile out of this thread.


Offline sadie

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2013, 10:57:36 AM »
Deleted out of respect for Caranas post, which I hadn't seen

stephen25000

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2013, 11:00:27 AM »
Every bit about Savile being a s..m^^^.  But did we know the depths of his circle of "friends2?  It wouldn't surprise me if others didn't surface .... and if there mght be a few "untouchables" amongst the ones who dont surface

Enough money was wasted upon Karen Matthews, wasn't there?  Yet people of your persuasion put her up as an example of how the Mccanns should have behaved.

Were you one who backed Karen Matthews?


Are you kidding me ?

'Yet people of your persuasion put her up as an example of how the Mccanns should have behaved.'

That is a truly offensive remark.

So to reciprocate, are you  of that type ? >@@(*&)

Offline sadie

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2013, 11:05:37 AM »
This is Caranas thread and out of respect for Carana, I am not answering that


Tho I would like to.

I shall try not respond to anything that takes away from the thread title

"Publicizing missing Kids"


Too important a topic to ruin.

stephen25000

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2013, 11:18:00 AM »
This is Caranas thread and out of respect for Carana, I am not answering that


Tho I would like to.

I shall try not respond to anything that takes away from the thread title

"Publicizing missing Kids"


Too important a topic to ruin.

You placed the offensive remark.

Do you withdraw it ?

Offline Carana

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2013, 11:31:30 AM »
No one ever imagined that a peaceful holiday could have turned into a tsunami disaster. People can get separated during a flood or fire or anything else. The Red Cross helps with this - as do several volunteer groups in disaster situations.

http://www.redcross.org.uk/What-we-do/Finding-missing-family/International-family-tracing?gclid=CMrC1OWH4bgCFcJc3godFAMAZg

AnneGuedes

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2013, 11:38:28 AM »
Several children / or perpetrators have been found thanks to high profiles.
Have you a concrete case of a child recognized thanks to a high profile campaign ?

Offline sadie

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2013, 11:40:59 AM »
The idea for this thread wasn't just about Madeleine. It could be any missing person and what can be done to help publicise the fact that they are missing and to remind people to remain vigilant.

There's a limit as to the amount of publicity (if any) that the mainstream media will give any particular missing person's case. Madeleine's case is exceptional, but it has also led to a higher profile of organisations searching for other people as well as spontaneous messages from people wishing to help in some way.

Social media can be very helpful and doesn't cost much.
Carana, I really like the faces and details on milk cartons idea ... and on buses, vans etc.

Maybe flood everywhere with these images in the early days, then when the impact is wearing off, desist for a while so the perp relaxes.

Then come in again, taking a slightly different approach, to re-awaken interest and briefly flood the place again with info.  Keep doing this with periods in between for the perp to hopefully become less vigilant.

Suggest things that people should look out for, like a change in habits of the perp.  New sheds and noises that haven't been heard before

The big trouble is that given time, the childs face will change almost beyond recognition.  Difficult, isn't it.


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Offline Benice

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2013, 12:03:43 PM »
No one ever imagined that a peaceful holiday could have turned into a tsunami disaster. People can get separated during a flood or fire or anything else. The Red Cross helps with this - as do several volunteer groups in disaster situations.

http://www.redcross.org.uk/What-we-do/Finding-missing-family/International-family-tracing?gclid=CMrC1OWH4bgCFcJc3godFAMAZg

I wonder if these different volunteer groups have the facility to exchange and share information.  If not maybe a government funded national computer based 'register' could be set up - where all the different agencies could input and cross-check information.

I can't say that I am very knowledgeable about this subject but it seems to me that the whole subject of missing people (of all ages) seems to have been a 'poor relation' to other matters in most countries and has been somewhere near the bottom of their list of priorities.     If nothing else, the McCann case IMO  has highlighted that situation and hopefully it will be recognised that serious changes need to be made.   It shouldn't be left up to charitable organisations and volunteers to provide assistance.     

 





The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2013, 12:30:34 PM »
80% of  missing persons are in fact voluntary ones. It's emotionally hard for the family and friends, but people are free to change their life.

Offline Carana

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2013, 12:42:13 PM »
Have you a concrete case of a child recognized thanks to a high profile campaign ?

Several:

- Jaycee Duggard and Elizabeth Smith were found because they had never been forgotten by police officers.

I'll post the articles if I find them (some seem to have been taken offline, possibly to protect the victims)

- Shannon Mathews: someone reported a suspicion.

- Simon Jones: missing for 56 days  - someone found that a little boy living with a man in a hostel did not seem normal and reported suspicious activity to the police.

- One of the Chinese abductions (which I posted a few days ago) resulted in a member of the public contacting the family. There may be many more of these, but I don't understand Chinese.

- Stephanie (Germany or Austria): someone found a little note that she had managed to drop near a recycling bin. Instead of letting the note rot in the rain, someone picked it up out of precaution and took it to the police.

- A young French adolescent who had disappeared from a camping ground.

That's just off the top of my head.


Offline Carana

Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2013, 12:43:47 PM »
80% of  missing persons are in fact voluntary ones. It's emotionally hard for the family and friends, but people are free to change their life.

There is a difference between adults making a life choice and vulnerable adults and children.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2013, 02:19:09 PM »
Several:

- Jaycee Duggard and Elizabeth Smith were found because they had never been forgotten by police officers.

I'll post the articles if I find them (some seem to have been taken offline, possibly to protect the victims)

- Shannon Mathews: someone reported a suspicion.

- Simon Jones: missing for 56 days  - someone found that a little boy living with a man in a hostel did not seem normal and reported suspicious activity to the police.

- One of the Chinese abductions (which I posted a few days ago) resulted in a member of the public contacting the family. There may be many more of these, but I don't understand Chinese.

- Stephanie (Germany or Austria): someone found a little note that she had managed to drop near a recycling bin. Instead of letting the note rot in the rain, someone picked it up out of precaution and took it to the police.

- A young French adolescent who had disappeared from a camping ground.

That's just off the top of my head.
In none of these cases a member of the public identified a minor thanks to a photograph and called the police.
The lead to Elisabeth Smart was her sister who identified the voice of the employee/perpetrator. The Chinese found himself his biological parents, inquiring.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Publicising missing kids
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2013, 02:21:21 PM »
There is a difference between adults making a life choice and vulnerable adults and children.
Vulnerable adults ?