Author Topic: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?  (Read 52241 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2013, 10:17:04 PM »
yes it was, and?

I didn't quite understand what you meant when you said:-

 '' or is the theory she could have been inside it at the time? That night when photographed?''

That sounded to me as if you thought she was inside the bag when the photo was taken.  But as you know it was taken by a police officer then I obviously misunderstood your post.

As it was a photograph taken by a police photographer - the bag was effectively in 'police custody' at the time and had probably been seen by various policemen who would remember whether they saw a tennis bag in 5A.   And surely they would know who took it away and where it went to? 






The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2013, 10:20:44 PM »
I  think the answer to the question is no.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2014, 08:59:59 PM »
Eddie went straight for the parents wardrobe specifically alerting the spot where a (now missing) blue sports bag sat.

What's chilling is that Cadaver only occurs when the decomposition process has begun.

Which means in turn that Madeleine laid in that bag in that wardrobe for long enough to start to decompose.  In a climate such as the Algarve this was probably reasonably quick....say a couple of hours.

Madeleine was already deceased when she disappeared.

Cuddle cat proves that.

no evidence of blue sports bag ever existing..alert to cuddlecat proves nothing..far from it...it isn't even evidence never mind proof...according to Grime

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2014, 09:08:47 PM »
no evidence of blue sports bag ever existing..alert to cuddlecat proves nothing..far from it...it isn't even evidence never mind proof...according to Grime

How can you be so adamant when it's clear you only have a nodding acquaintance with this case?

One blue sports bag....

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The video of Grime and Eddie shows Eddie going straight to that particular shelf and barking his head off.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2014, 09:13:22 PM »
How can you be so adamant when it's clear you only have a nodding acquaintance with this case?

One blue sports bag....

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The video of Grime and Eddie shows Eddie going straight to that particular shelf and barking his head off.

you are having a laugh aren't you..wheres the blue sports bag

Offline pegasus

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2014, 09:15:19 PM »
One blue sports bag....
...
The video of Grime and Eddie shows Eddie going straight to that particular shelf and barking his head off.
Again I recommend watching that video repeatedly in slow motion. What does Eddie sniff at immediatly before he alerts? Is it the shelf where the big luggage bag had been? Actually No. When he barks Eddie has just sniffed on the shelf below where the pile of clothes had been.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2014, 09:16:41 PM »
you are having a laugh aren't you..wheres the blue sports bag

You cant see it?

you cant see something as plain as the nose on your own face?

Really?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2014, 09:18:22 PM »
Again I recommend watching that video repeatedly in slow motion. What does Eddie sniff at immediatly before he alerts? Is it the shelf where the big luggage bag had been? Actually No. When he barks Eddie has just sniffed on the shelf below where the pile of clothes had been.


Yes that is correct but those pile of clothes could have been emptied from a bag that was originally stored on that shelf where the scent was found?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2014, 09:20:15 PM »
Yes that is correct but those pile of clothes could have been emptied from a bag that was originally stored on that shelf where the scent was found?

Eddie barked = cadaver alert.

There is a missing blue sports bag.  Gerry denied even owning one yet there it is in the photo.


Offline pegasus

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2014, 09:23:46 PM »
you are having a laugh aren't you..wheres the blue sports bag
Pedantics about the various inaccurate usages of the term "sports bag" aside, the photo shows a large luggage bag (actually it is a sort of hybrid between a bag and a case) which was removed on Saturday.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2014, 09:25:54 PM by pegasus »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2014, 09:25:03 PM »
Eddie barked = cadaver alert.

There is a missing blue sports bag.  Gerry denied even owning one yet there it is in the photo.



They came with 5 bags to PDL. 3 carry on ones.

1. Gerry's red rucksack
2. Kate's green rucksack
3. Black carry on bag

And 2 main luggage bags

1. That blue one in wardrobe
2. ? Unknown - possibly a white bag but it is not seen in 5A pics.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2014, 09:26:46 PM »
You cant see it?

you cant see something as plain as the nose on your own face?

Really?

theres no blue sports bag

Offline jassi

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2014, 09:28:30 PM »
theres no blue sports bag

You are very dogmatic. How do you know that there isn't?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2014, 09:30:58 PM »
You are very dogmatic. How do you know that there isn't?

Can you see a blue sports bag in the picture...if you can..then the answers yes

Offline jassi

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2014, 09:32:10 PM »
Can you see a blue sports bag in the picture...if you can..then the answers yes

Because you can't see something at a particular moment doesn't prove it doesn't exist.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future