Author Topic: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?  (Read 47416 times)

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #150 on: October 01, 2017, 01:13:06 PM »
Pathfinder do you remember about your post referred to here?  Can you help me on this one?

First he cited video footage the police had shot of the reactions of the blood and cadaver dogs in apartment 5A and also around our hire car. I would be shown this on my return to the police station, he said. Presumably repeating what he had been told by the PJ, he explained how samples from both these sites had revealed Madeleine’s blood and one of them indicated a 15 out of 19 match with her DNA.
I was totally perplexed. Although this news, if true, seemed to add weight to the possibility that Madeleine had at the very least been physically harmed, unusually I didn’t dwell too much on the frightening implications. I can only assume this was because what we were being told didn’t make sense. If, as the PJ alleged, Madeleine’s blood was in the boot of our car, which we had not rented until 27 May, how on earth had it got there? Did this mean someone had planted it? I could see no other explanation. The police theory, it seemed, was that we had hidden Madeleine’s body, then moved it later, in the car, and buried it elsewhere.
Next came the matter of a crumpled page the police said they had discovered in my borrowed Bible. It seemed this was felt to be highly significant because the passage on that page, in II Samuel 12, dealt with the death of a child. I knew nothing about any pages being crumpled, let alone in which part of the Bible. The fact that I had asked to see a priest on the night of Madeleine’s disappearance was also seen as evidence of guilt. What? I was beginning to find my credulity stretched to breaking point. ‘Don’t people in Portugal talk to priests in times of need?’ I asked Carlos. Apparently not. They only called for a priest when they wanted their sins to be forgiven. Good grief. This was definitely not the faith with which I was familiar.
A witness claimed to have seen Gerry and me carrying a big black bag and acting suspiciously. This was absolute nonsense, but ‘evidence’ of this kind came down to one person’s word against another. And it appeared that, as far as the PJ were concerned, our word counted for little.
‘If you were Portuguese,’ Carlos said with an air of resignation, ‘this would be enough to put you in prison.’ (Madeleine by KM)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #151 on: October 01, 2017, 01:24:38 PM »
There's only one main luggage bag in the wardrobe seen in crime scene photos. The McCanns took two main luggage bags to PDL. Simple question - why is the other one missing from crime scene photos?

I haven't seen any photos of the interior of the wardrobe in the kids' room.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #152 on: October 01, 2017, 01:40:27 PM »
I haven't seen any photos of the interior of the wardrobe in the kids' room.

The crime scene photographer should have taken a shot of anything found inside the kids wardrobe. As you can see a kids jacket hanging on the parents wardrobe door and what looks like more kids clothes on a shelf it looks like the kids wardrobe wasn't used because a cot was blocking the doors.

Cot blocking wardrobe doors


Kids jacket hanging on parents wardrobe



Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #153 on: October 01, 2017, 08:33:58 PM »
Thank you Pathfinder?  How did you get such a long piece of text from the book may I ask?
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Offline Carana

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #154 on: October 02, 2017, 11:35:34 AM »
The crime scene photographer should have taken a shot of anything found inside the kids wardrobe. As you can see a kids jacket hanging on the parents wardrobe door and what looks like more kids clothes on a shelf it looks like the kids wardrobe wasn't used because a cot was blocking the doors.

Cot blocking wardrobe doors


Kids jacket hanging on parents wardrobe


"Should" being the operative word, perhaps... even if it had been found empty.

The cots could have been placed (or replaced) in their positions once items unlikely to be needed in the immediate term had already been stored in there.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #155 on: October 02, 2017, 11:49:20 AM »
It is up to investigators to get CCTV footage to identify the second main luggage bag. 5 bags were brought to PDL.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2017, 11:51:28 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #156 on: October 03, 2017, 12:11:01 AM »
It is up to investigators to get CCTV footage to identify the second main luggage bag. 5 bags were brought to PDL.
How do you know that 5 bags were brought to PdL PFinder?


I really cannot imagine how they managed 5 bags and three tots, but they have shown themselves very capable and efficient imo, so maybe they managed ?   But how ?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #157 on: October 03, 2017, 12:57:53 AM »
 @)(++(* Elementary Sadie.

Pj files: Two main baggage identification tags 340816 and 340817



3 carry on ones - Kate's green rucksack and Gerry's red and the other one he is carrying in the holiday footage below. 

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #158 on: October 03, 2017, 01:35:43 AM »
@)(++(* Elementary Sadie.

Pj files: Two main baggage identification tags 340816 and 340817



3 carry on ones - Kate's green rucksack and Gerry's red and the other one he is carrying in the holiday footage below. 


Is that it in the corner behind the far dining chair?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #159 on: October 03, 2017, 01:37:02 AM »
Well spotted Misty. That's Kate's green rucksack.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #160 on: October 03, 2017, 01:42:17 AM »
Well spotted Misty. That's Kate's green rucksack.

And the bag on the floor l/h/s in this photo?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #161 on: October 03, 2017, 01:58:43 AM »
That looks like the one Gerry is carrying in his left hand toward the plane steps.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Was there really a 'missing' luggage bag?
« Reply #162 on: October 03, 2017, 02:38:55 AM »
That looks like the one Gerry is carrying in his left hand toward the plane steps.

So which one is missing?