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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #180 on: February 25, 2014, 12:52:56 PM »

I believe SY does have a sophisticated software where they get the percentages of the possibility that this or that happened. I know these types of software are present for marketing and sales purposes, so believe there is something similar in policing..

It would be interesting to see.

Probabilities around the dogs.
Probabilities around changing statements.
Probabilities around timelines.
Probabilities around sleeping twins.

Etc. etc.

The combined probabilities of them all being explained innocently is fairly small statistically speaking.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #181 on: February 25, 2014, 12:54:09 PM »
There are big discrepancies about that visit - if you think they are going to ignore these then you are living on a different planet. They will follow all other leads first to cover all possibilities until one is left. With the discrepancies of that visit and the daily routine change happening for the first time of the week (kids not going out to play) - then that time period stands out as being very suspicious and if anything happened to Madeleine this is the time that it probably did.

One would certainly hope so, and that they don't throw their hand in when they cannot find any trace of an abductor.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #182 on: February 25, 2014, 12:55:58 PM »
One would certainly hope so, and that they don't throw their hand in when they cannot find any trace of an abductor.

I believe they already found this trace..
Thanks to technology..

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #183 on: February 25, 2014, 12:57:22 PM »
I believe they already found this trace..
Thanks to technology..

They know what mobiles were being used in PDL at the time?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline VIXTE

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #184 on: February 25, 2014, 01:04:43 PM »
They know what mobiles were being used in PDL at the time?

That is the most important data.. I don't see the reason why they should not deeply concentrate on this...again.. in our times this is not analysed by hand and by looking at it.. like we do on forums..

I used to work on large amounts of data analysing, not for the police, but in general.. I know this is possible..

Offline jassi

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #185 on: February 25, 2014, 01:13:13 PM »
I believe they already found this trace..
Thanks to technology..

I don't think they have, but time will tell.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #186 on: February 25, 2014, 01:15:02 PM »
That is the most important data.. I don't see the reason why they should not deeply concentrate on this...again.. in our times this is not analysed by hand and by looking at it.. like we do on forums..

I used to work on large amounts of data analysing, not for the police, but in general.. I know this is possible..

It may well be possible, but may not come up with a result.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Angelo222

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #187 on: February 25, 2014, 02:26:26 PM »
No for A and C.
A. No residue was found where Eddie alone alerted (3 places in G5A).
C. The DNA substance found at CSI's only alert didn't belong to the missing child.

I don't understand what you are saying here Anne??  8-)(--)

De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #188 on: February 25, 2014, 02:29:41 PM »
That is the most important data.. I don't see the reason why they should not deeply concentrate on this...again.. in our times this is not analysed by hand and by looking at it.. like we do on forums..

I used to work on large amounts of data analysing, not for the police, but in general.. I know this is possible..

So did I, and the first thing to do is to identify what the data tell us. It tells us that a Sim Card was in a phone in a certain area at a certain time.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #189 on: February 25, 2014, 02:34:06 PM »
I don't understand what you are saying here Anne??  8-)(--)
Trying to say it another way.

A. The EVRD alerted on 4 places (two inside, two outside of the 5A). The CSI was brought on those 4 spots but reacted only on one where some residue was found. There was no residue on the 3 other places, only impalpable VOCs.
C. The DNA of the residue found by the CSI didn't belong to the missing child.

Offline Angelo222

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #190 on: February 25, 2014, 02:39:42 PM »
That is the most important data.. I don't see the reason why they should not deeply concentrate on this...again.. in our times this is not analysed by hand and by looking at it.. like we do on forums..

I used to work on large amounts of data analysing, not for the police, but in general.. I know this is possible..

Child abductors aren't in the habit of registering their mobile phones.  Therein lies Redwoods problem!
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Estuarine

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Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #191 on: February 25, 2014, 02:42:36 PM »
It would be interesting to see.

Probabilities around the dogs.
Probabilities around changing statements.
Probabilities around timelines.
Probabilities around sleeping twins.

Etc. etc.

The combined probabilities of them all being explained innocently is fairly small statistically speaking.

That I think, Slarti, sums it up.  8((()*/

Offline VIXTE

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #192 on: February 25, 2014, 02:52:41 PM »
Child abductors aren't in the habit of registering their mobile phones.  Therein lies Redwoods problem!

A phone doesn't need to be registered if any of its contacts are.. also majority of the shops selling the unregistered mobile phones have CCTVs

Recently, during the Snowden saga.. it was published by the Guardian that the NSA is able in matter of seconds to pull the whole network of the people a number or a individual has a contact with.. we live in the world of technology and our technology footprint is everywhere..


Offline Angelo222

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #193 on: February 25, 2014, 02:55:50 PM »
Trying to say it another way.

A. The EVRD alerted on 4 places (two inside, two outside of the 5A). The CSI was brought on those 4 spots but reacted only on one where some residue was found. There was no residue on the 3 other places, only impalpable VOCs.
C. The DNA of the residue found by the CSI didn't belong to the missing child.

So in a nutshell (...oops coconuts) the dogs alerts and the CSI results tell us nothing?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The DNA results used to implicate the McCanns revisited.
« Reply #194 on: February 25, 2014, 02:58:13 PM »
So in a nutshell (...oops coconuts) the dogs alerts and the CSI results tell us nothing?

I think it is more accurate to say there is no CSI samples in 3 cases.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.