Author Topic: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.  (Read 482707 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1500 on: January 07, 2014, 12:38:34 PM »
I think you might find that that is not true.
I have heard that the there is some legal query, related to Madeleine being a Ward of Court which is awaiting clarification.


Thanks for that information jassi.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1501 on: January 07, 2014, 12:44:35 PM »
Accoding to Jerry Lawton - Twitter "libel trial adjourned to date to be fixed after Goncalo Amaral's lawyers submitted more documents at last minute"

Interesting.

Discourteous, but within the rules.  A common delaying tactic by a reluctant defendant. 

Offline jassi

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1502 on: January 07, 2014, 12:47:48 PM »
Time will tell the truth of the matter. We must just learn to be patient.  8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1503 on: January 07, 2014, 12:48:20 PM »
As I understand it the Supreme Court in Portugal has already ruled Dr Amaral had that right and had not infringed the McCann's rights when the McCann's failed in their final bid to have his book banned from sale. You may or may not trawl around the international press but there are suggestions there that the McCann's tried to settle out of court but the defendants wouldn't have any of it. Hence the delay from Jan 2013 to Sept 2013. Odd action for a plaintiff surely?

You are obviously not as well versed as you think you are.  There was never any proof that The McCanns tried to settle.  Only that they as Plaintiffs are the only ones who can actually ask for a stay when The Defence ask for it.

The Libel Trial is ongoing at the moment, so either The Portuguese Court is daft, or The Injunction had nothing to do with Libel.

Actually, The Injunction was an interim thing to limit the damage done to the search for Madeleine while they all staggered through the delaying tactics from The Defence, and yet again today.

Amaral's Sequestered Assets must be On Deposit somewhere, and therefor gaining Interest.  So who has a right to The Interest?

Perhaps Montclair can answer that.  Four years of Interest could be quite considerable.

Cariad

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1504 on: January 07, 2014, 12:58:05 PM »
Why delay? I can't see any benefit for Dr Amaral in delaying things. I can just about see a benefit for the Mccanns (should the reports about sy having found their man be true, delaying until an arrest would be helpful for them).

The impression I have of this judge is that she doesn't suffer fools gladly, so I imagine there must have been a good reason for the delay. I can't think that she would've been terribly impressed with the lawyers presenting something at this late stage.

All supposition on my part obviously. Just musing aloud....

Estuarine

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1505 on: January 07, 2014, 12:59:19 PM »
Look at it as a "no trump" hand of bridge or whist. Every player must play a card of the correct suit in the correct order or the game is screwed up. Dr Amaral has merely played his latest card. So far so good....watch this space all will be revealed in the fullness of time.

Estuarine

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1506 on: January 07, 2014, 01:02:14 PM »
You are obviously not as well versed as you think you are.  There was never any proof that The McCanns tried to settle.  Only that they as Plaintiffs are the only ones who can actually ask for a stay when The Defence ask for it.

The Libel Trial is ongoing at the moment, so either The Portuguese Court is daft, or The Injunction had nothing to do with Libel.

Actually, The Injunction was an interim thing to limit the damage done to the search for Madeleine while they all staggered through the delaying tactics from The Defence, and yet again today.

Amaral's Sequestered Assets must be On Deposit somewhere, and therefor gaining Interest.  So who has a right to The Interest?

Perhaps Montclair can answer that.  Four years of Interest could be quite considerable.

Estuarine

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1507 on: January 07, 2014, 01:03:57 PM »
You are obviously not as well versed as you think you are.  There was never any proof that The McCanns tried to settle.  Only that they as Plaintiffs are the only ones who can actually ask for a stay when The Defence ask for it.

The Libel Trial is ongoing at the moment, so either The Portuguese Court is daft, or The Injunction had nothing to do with Libel.

Actually, The Injunction was an interim thing to limit the damage done to the search for Madeleine while they all staggered through the delaying tactics from The Defence, and yet again today.

Amaral's Sequestered Assets must be On Deposit somewhere, and therefor gaining Interest.  So who has a right to The Interest?

Perhaps Montclair can answer that.  Four years of Interest could be quite considerable.

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1508 on: January 07, 2014, 01:05:00 PM »
Accoding to Jerry Lawton - Twitter "libel trial adjourned to date to be fixed after Goncalo Amaral's lawyers submitted more documents at last minute"

Interesting.

Discourteous, but within the rules.  A common delaying tactic by a reluctant defendant.

Your assumption does not make it a fact.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1509 on: January 07, 2014, 01:05:44 PM »
Why delay? I can't see any benefit for Dr Amaral in delaying things. I can just about see a benefit for the Mccanns (should the reports about sy having found their man be true, delaying until an arrest would be helpful for them).

The impression I have of this judge is that she doesn't suffer fools gladly, so I imagine there must have been a good reason for the delay. I can't think that she would've been terribly impressed with the lawyers presenting something at this late stage.

All supposition on my part obviously. Just musing aloud....

I would agree that if Amaral is confident in winning his case, then there would be no advantage in delaying proceedings - he would want the case done and dusted as soon as possible.

And yet, it does look as though his lawyers are using the time honoured tactic of late submission of documents to delay proceedings. 

This is of course just the latest in a long series of delays occasioned by Amaral.  It is puzzling. 

Estuarine

  • Guest
Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1510 on: January 07, 2014, 01:11:53 PM »
You are obviously not as well versed as you think you are.  There was never any proof that The McCanns tried to settle.  Only that they as Plaintiffs are the only ones who can actually ask for a stay when The Defence ask for it.

The Libel Trial is ongoing at the moment, so either The Portuguese Court is daft, or The Injunction had nothing to do with Libel.

Actually, The Injunction was an interim thing to limit the damage done to the search for Madeleine while they all staggered through the delaying tactics from The Defence, and yet again today.

Amaral's Sequestered Assets must be On Deposit somewhere, and therefor gaining Interest.  So who has a right to The Interest?

Perhaps Montclair can answer that.  Four years of Interest could be quite considerable.
I don't recall suggesting that I think I am well versed. Nor do I recall using the word proof. I couldn't hope to aspire to level of expertise in this forum but are you saying that the Supreme Court didn't rule in favour of Dr Amaral with respect to publication of his book?

[/quote]

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1511 on: January 07, 2014, 01:16:31 PM »
Jerry Lawton Twitter

10:17 AM - 7 Jan 2014

#McCann libel trial adjourned to date to be fixed after Goncalo Amaral's lawyers submitted more documents at last minute.

https://twitter.com/JerryLawton
« Last Edit: January 07, 2014, 01:22:32 PM by Wonderfulspam »
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1512 on: January 07, 2014, 01:20:50 PM »
I don't recall suggesting that I think I am well versed. Nor do I recall using the word proof. I couldn't hope to aspire to level of expertise in this forum but are you saying that the Supreme Court didn't rule in favour of Dr Amaral with respect to publication of his book?

To be more precise, they lifted the injunction with was granted after an ex parte hearing.  They did not rule on whether the book was defamatory.  That is of course the subject of the current trial.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1513 on: January 07, 2014, 01:23:52 PM »
Hi SH, when did that happen, was it in the last 24 hours ?

Hi Pat, happy new year etc etc  8((()*/

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3166.0
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline Eleanor

Re: The McCann v Gonçalo Amaral libel trial as it happens.
« Reply #1514 on: January 07, 2014, 01:28:12 PM »
To be more precise, they lifted the injunction with was granted after an ex parte hearing.  They did not rule on whether the book was defamatory.  That is of course the subject of the current trial.

Thank you, Jean Pierre.  No need for me to answer.