Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.

[Angelo222]

So they went on Portuguese TV once Sadie?  Was that the occasion that Gerry walked off set on one of his Irish huffs leaving Kate looking lost and silly??

Maybe you mean the time he ignored and blanked Portuguese journalists outside the Palace of Justice because he didn't like their questions??

[sadie]

I don't believe for a second that Luz damaged any posters.  She might have wanted to and boasted about doing so but that is where it ends.  Isn't that right Luz??

My question is, with all this money sitting dormant in a bank account wouldn't it be better used to search for Madeleine?  Why have they effectively abandoned her?

Why are you making excuses for Luz, Angelo?

The very fact that I epened a new thread just for her asking the question,   Then had to keep challenging her and PMing her, proved she was hiding things ... and no longer wanted to admit  what s/he did.  It took her weeks and weeks to respond to my questiion to her about it.

DCI irrevocably proved s/he was lying, then Admin whooshed that .... or was it you that did that?


Sykes even commented on davidbretisagod.forumotion.co.uk about it .... about the injustices on a so called "Justice forum" in removing proofs that two posters were lying.



Apart from that so many of us have seen Luz s original bragging posts about defacing the posters of a missing child.  What sort of person does a thing like that? 

Actually I hope that s/he is sued.  Some of those big posters must  have cost an arm and a leg.  Perhaps the Fund will get the money back frm her?

But the worst thing of all is that she was trying to stop the search for a missing little girl.  Toerag!


No doubt you will whoosh this ... or slap penalty points on me for telling the truth

[Lyall]

Sadie, this obsession with what may or may not have happened two years later is irrational.

The search was already severely damaged by English xenophobia, which began within seven days and which continued without a break.

Why aren't you talking about that?

[Angelo222]

But the worst thing of all is that she was trying to stop the search for a missing little girl.  Toerag!


No doubt you will whoosh this ... or slap penalty points on me for telling the truth

What I will do is award you a few extra points for calling a fellow member a toerag when you haven't even been back 24 hours. 

[Carana]

My question isn't off topic.  Why haven't they replaced those billboards with something more substantial and less liable to be damaged.  Why have they not bought time on Portuguese TV channels promoting Madeleine?  Or is it a case of much ado about nothing?? 

Interesting. Are you suggesting that buying PT advertising time could have constituted a legitimate "search" expense?

Some people seem to have a more limited understanding of what "search" expenditure should have been.

[Redblossom]

Interesting. Are you suggesting that buying PT advertising time could have constituted a legitimate "search" expense?

Some people seem to have a more limited understanding of what "search" expenditure should have been.

The fund spent £111,522 on legal fees and expenses and £81,904 on posters and television and newspaper adverts appealing for information about Madeleine. Mr and Mrs McCann, both 40, set up the fund in May 2007.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1131284/Where-2m-gave-Madeleine-McCann-gone.html

The couple will continue to campaign for their daughter's safe return, Mr Mitchell said, and an £80,000 poster campaign was launched yesterday to target remote villages in Southern Portugal and Spain.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488007/We-DONT-believe-Madeleine-dead-Gerry-McCann-insists.html

And cinema ads

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465825/Madeleine-cinema-advert-upsets-Shrek-audiences.html

I wonder whose wonderful idea this was? To scare young kids?

So, 80k, a meagre amount in the big scheme of things really

Guess this thread might die a death due to uncomfortable  questions

[LagosBen]

  Yes it is. That question addressed the "why didn't they search" issue. 

Here is the correct thread for that issue (mind you there has been a few threads on the searching issue) =
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2198.msg73585#msg73585


I don't know why they did what they did. I don't always agree with what they do. I can only assume that because of the strained relationship between the Portuguese and the McCann’s they thought it wouldn't help putting up posters less liable to be damaged. Or that it would cost too much. Remember there was a stage that the fund was almost depleted, pre book release. However, whatever they do it is always met with scrutiny. Why should they put up posters that can't be tampered with when it's common human decency not to deface posters in the first place?

They did do interviews on Portuguese TV. People forget they just parents. Not some professional PR machine. And the people they have employed along the way to help them, haven't always turned out to be there for them and acting in their best interests. That is no fault of theirs, they only human, they make mistakes, as was evident the night Madeleine disappeared. But, that does not automatically make them guilty of murdering her. There is a huge leap from 'making a terrible parenting mistake' to 'they killed their child'. And people tend to want to fill that gap with whatever they interpret the facts to be. And in that lies the problem. Those interpreting the facts are also human and can make mistakes. I believe Amaral made such a mistake. He misinterpreted the fact and based his theory on that misinterpretation. Unfortunately instead of back tracking and acknowledging this, he saw it as a means to use his right to freedom of expression and make some money. This intern has resulted in groups either in support of or against one of the parties. Those who can see the correct interpretation of facts and those who can't.

 

[Angelo222]

Interesting. Are you suggesting that buying PT advertising time could have constituted a legitimate "search" expense?

Some people seem to have a more limited understanding of what "search" expenditure should have been.

Most certainly. A national TV advertising campaign would reach the vast majority of the Portuguese and Maddie too if she is still alive.  What's the point of having money sitting dormant in a bank account when your child is missing.  Isn't that what the money was for??

[sadie]

Most certainly. A national TV advertising campaign would reach the vast majority of the Portuguese and Maddie too if she is still alive.  What's the point of having money sitting dormant in a bank account when your child is missing.  Isn't that what the money was for??

Madeleine is almost certainly NOT in PT now, anyway.

And had they done what you are suggesting, then people on here would have been moaning about wasting the fund money.

It would have given them another stick with which to beat the Mccanns.

[LagosBen]

Truly shameful that anyone could do this to a missing childs poster no matter what they believed.

http://news.sky.com/story/688705/portuguese-town-is-fed-up-with-madeleine



Portuguese Town Is 'Fed Up' With Madeleine
 
11:11am UK, Friday 01 May 2009



Madeleine poster vandalised

Video: Sympathy Wanes For Missing Madeleine
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By Jason Farrell

A billboard about missing Madeleine McCann has been defaced and letters appealing for information ripped up in the Portuguese town where she disappeared.

Sympathy for Kate and Gerry McCann is running out in Praia da Luz, where their daughter vanished two years ago this Sunday, a Sky News investigation has found.

Gerry returned there last month to film a reconstruction but he was heckled by some residents who blame the couple for a downturn in business.

At the town, he backed a poster campaign and sent out 10,000 letters to locals, appealing for information about the British girl, who disappeared on May 3, 2007.

But they were received with little sympathy by many people, including builder Jose.

He said: "Nobody liked it and I think it was a shame that they sent out those letters. Many people just ripped them up."



Many expats there are equally hostile.

When asked how she felt about Gerry coming back to film a reconstruction, one resident, Nana, said: "Horrible, absolutely horrible. He was totally ignored.

"People didn't put up any posters. They're fed up and we're very angry."

This level of anger stems from a fear that the town has become too quiet.

The Ocean Club where the McCanns stayed and where Madeleine went missing is perhaps struggling the most.

In 2007, it employed 130 people, now it employs 48. Some 27 of them have just been sacked which will leave just 21 staff.



Laid-off laundry workers said the reasons given were the economy and the impact of Madeleine's disappearance.

But some people in Praia de Luz still support Kate and Gerry's efforts to find their daughter.

Local priest Haynes Hubbard, said: "People are tired. People don't like to be reminded of something awful being perpetrated in their own home, back yard.

"It's understandable but it's not right. It's easier to forget and move on. It's not right but it's easier."

The place is dependent on tourism but is famous for a missing girl - a face many want to forget when the McCanns' only hope is that people remember Madeleine

[Admin]

Members are reminded that it is contrary to forum rules to import material from outside this forum with the sole intention of harassing or haranguing fellow members.  I will take no action on this occasion except to remove the offending posts but be warned that this will no longer be tolerated.

No exceptions! 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=485.0

[sadie]

Members are reminded that it is contrary to forum rules to import material from outside this forum with the sole intention of harassing or haranguing fellow members.  I will take no action on this occasion except to remove the offending posts but be warned that this will no longer be tolerated.

No exceptions! 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=485.0

Admin

I dont understand it.

Why is it that some posters can import material but others can't ?


The posters that can import seem to be the Mccann [ censored word ]s.
The posters who cannot import seem to be the pro Mccanns.

Why is that? >@@(*&)

[Admin]

Admin

I dont understand it.

Why is it that some posters can import material but others can't ?


The posters that can import seem to be the Mccann [ censored word ]s.
The posters who cannot import seem to be the pro Mccanns.

Why is that? >@@(*&)

The clue is in the 'with the sole intention of harassing or haranguing fellow members' bit Sadie.

[gilet]

In which case, without the benefit or permission to bring the evidence here, I will repeat that I think the people like the Luz who posted that despicable comment on another forum is a vicious nasty s..mbag as are all other posters who post such evil comments regarding the disappearance of a missing little girl and the parents'/police actions to find that child.

And I repeat my question, is such vicious nastiness (as evidenced by the stream of such comments on other forums, confined to anti McCanns or is there also a stream of such evidence that Pro McCanns have behaved in the same way?

Anyone in my view who seeks to viciously damage the search for a missing little girl is beneath contempt and the more such evil people are exposed on forums and in the media the better for society. I regret that admin apparently don't agree that in this case the bringing here of such evidence of malicious comments is worthwhile.

[CPN]

Admin

The posters that can import seem to be the Mccann [ censored word ]s.
The posters who cannot import seem to be the pro Mccanns.

Why is that? >@@(*&)

And why use the language "Mccann [ censored word ]s"?   That says as much as anything.  I do NOT Hate the McCans, I hate what they did in leaving their three young children alone; that does NOT make me hate them.  If you must differentiate between posters, why not simply pro and anti (although even that is only a portion of the reality)