Gonçalo Amaral's wife writes to Kate McCann asking her to tell the truth!!

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I have posted no such quote (and nothing similar to that quote) as you wrongly claim.

Ah so I am ranting and you are posting facts when you claim " that the McCanns, according to themselves, are suffering permanent depression and/or anxiety and/or hemorrhoids or god knows what else "?

You really are showing yourself up when you claim such things. Do you not see that?

Please provide the relevant quotes if you wish to be taken seriously and not simply be seen to be being petulant.

OK, on the basis that you're obviously hard of understanding I shall explain things. Sorry I can't show you fingerpuppets or something to help you further, you'll just have to try and muddle through.

The McCanns, via their libel claim and the Daily Mirror claimed that Amaral's book caused the parents “'permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear.” Kate McCann is, in addition, “'steeped in a deep and serious depression.” And "totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view, beyond the pain that the absence of their eldest daughter causes them"."

Yes, I admit that I added in the bit about hemorrhoids for comic effect to exaggerate my feelings about the stupidity and unprovability of their claim and that they seem to want to hold Amaral responsible for all the ills that befall them.  That you are unable to appreciate this is not my problem. Deal with it.

As to your other suggestions about me showing myself up and being petulant, you're welcome to those opinions. I'll try and sleep tonight but I'm afraid your words may have caused me anxiety and depression. And maybe hemorrhoids too, so it may be tough.

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Rather ironic that you should be pronouncing on the state of mind of this couple who you have never met and who you only know from snippets on the internet of their lives, while elsewhere on this forum posters are damming Mr Pike for his comments about the McCanns when he has professional qualifications relevant to those comments and has spent long periods with the McCanns.

Are you really claiming to be in a better position than him to comment on this couple's state of mind or are you just a typical know-it-all internet anti McCann who thinks he is so clever he can determine such matters over a few forum posts, a few cherry-picked photos and no actual interaction, conversation, or anything else that normally form the basis of such judgements?

Sorry, that's priceless. You're really trying to claim that Pike (stupid boy) did a good job?   

Oh my sides.  I've seen the McCanns out (well, Kate anyway) at a shopping centre in Leicester before. She looked pretty happy to me that day too. Although she was out with just what I assume was a friend and not inconvenienced by childcare of her twins so that may explain it.  I know I failed in my duty but I completely failed to stop her and abuse her. I'm such a disgrace to [ censored word] everywhere. 

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OK, on the basis that you're obviously hard of understanding I shall explain things. Sorry I can't show you fingerpuppets or something to help you further, you'll just have to try and muddle through.

The McCanns, via their libel claim and the Daily Mirror claimed that Amaral's book caused the parents “'permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear.” Kate McCann is, in addition, “'steeped in a deep and serious depression.” And "totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view, beyond the pain that the absence of their eldest daughter causes them"."

Yes, I admit that I added in the bit about hemorrhoids for comic effect to exaggerate my feelings about the stupidity and unprovability of their claim and that they seem to want to hold Amaral responsible for all the ills that befall them.  That you are unable to appreciate this is not my problem. Deal with it.

As to your other suggestions about me showing myself up and being petulant, you're welcome to those opinions. I'll try and sleep tonight but I'm afraid your words may have caused me anxiety and depression. And maybe hemorrhoids too, so it may be tough.

Your petulance is shining through that post once again especially in that last paragraph where you seem to be claiming that my posting opinions which don't match your opinions but which are at least equally valid are causing you to lose sleep. If that is the case then I fear you are in need of medical help.

Comic effect is all well and good, but when taken as part of a post in which you are damming the McCanns for having the audacity to smile at any point in their lives, it really does not fit well.

And you still have not explained why you believe that people suffering anxiety and depression should never, at any point in their lives, smile. Nor have you explained why you cherry-picked those few examples of smiles from the tens of thousands of more serious (even, may I say it depressed) photos of the McCanns which exist?

You posted those photos here for a reason. You have not explained that reason.

Do you actually believe that this couple should never be allowed to smile again? Is that the reason you have shown us the photos or do you have some other reason? 

Please explain your reasoning because it surely cannot be that you think a couple who are trying to maintain as normal a life as possible for their other children should simply never be allowed to smile again? Can it?

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No further questions, your honour. 

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Sorry, that's priceless. You're really trying to claim that Pike (stupid boy) did a good job?   

Oh my sides.  I've seen the McCanns out (well, Kate anyway) at a shopping centre in Leicester before. She looked pretty happy to me that day too. Although she was out with just what I assume was a friend and not inconvenienced by childcare of her twins so that may explain it.  I know I failed in my duty but I completely failed to stop her and abuse her. I'm such a disgrace to [ censored word] everywhere. 

Please point to any post I have made on this forum where I claim that Pike did a good job?#
You cannot because I have not. Your inability to read plain English does you a great disservice.

I did explain, quite correctly, that Pike has much more authority to be able to pronounce on the matters than you have.

In making this error in your reading you have completely swerved the question I posed to you about your own abilities in determining the mental state of the McCanns without expertise or contact with the couple.  Instead you post more inanity.

And let's take this new scenario you present as truthful for a moment. You claim now that you have had an encounter with Kate McCann. Well there you go! That surely is all anyone needs before pronouncing on the mental state of another person, that they spotted them out shopping.

You really are a most wonderfully informed person about the case. Not only have you now claimed to have actually spotted Kate McCann while out shopping but you have also got not one but two PJ bods (who if I am not mistaken you called LP bods in the past) secretly informing you of all the details of the case.

We can all see that it is this in-depth knowledge of the case which is clearly sustaining your presumptive guesswork about the state of mind of the couple whose child is missing and who you are posting about here for comic effect.

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No further questions, your honour. 

Yet more of that pathetic comic effect I presume?

You really are not helping the anti McCann cause with such posts when it is clear that you are simply avoiding the question I posed to you in the post above it.

And I don't believe you have explained why you think Joana Morais was correct to state that Sofia Leal was writing ironically to Kate McCann.

You do seem to swerve questions when they don't suit you, don't you?

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Please point to any post I have made on this forum where I claim that Pike did a good job?#
You cannot because I have not. Your inability to read plain English does you a great disservice.

I did explain, quite correctly, that Pike has much more authority to be able to pronounce on the matters than you have.

In making this error in your reading you have completely swerved the question I posed to you about your own abilities in determining the mental state of the McCanns without expertise or contact with the couple.  Instead you post more inanity.

And let's take this new scenario you present as truthful for a moment. You claim now that you have had an encounter with Kate McCann. Well there you go! That surely is all anyone needs before pronouncing on the mental state of another person, that they spotted them out shopping.

You really are a most wonderfully informed person about the case. Not only have you now claimed to have actually spotted Kate McCann while out shopping but you have also got not one but two PJ bods (who if I am not mistaken you called LP bods in the past) secretly informing you of all the details of the case.

We can all see that it is this in-depth knowledge of the case which is clearly sustaining your presumptive guesswork about the state of mind of the couple whose child is missing and who you are posting about here for comic effect.

Whoa princess. Timeout. I never once claimed my friends were pj! You made that mistaken assumption and I already pointed that out once! You made the same mistake on the stm forum, by the way.

When I saw km out shopping with a mate she was happily chatting and laughing. She didn't look devastated, anxious or depressed to me. Maybe pike (stupid boy) would have been able to see the inner pain that a mere mortal like me failed to spot.  >@@(*&)

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Yet more of that pathetic comic effect I presume?

You really are not helping the anti McCann cause with such posts when it is clear that you are simply avoiding the question I posed to you in the post above it.

And I don't believe you have explained why you think Joana Morais was correct to state that Sofia Leal was writing ironically to Kate McCann.

You do seem to swerve questions when they don't suit you, don't you?

Sorry, I'm too busy laughing at you to answer questions at the moment. Maybe later 

[Erngath]

Your petulance is shining through that post once again especially in that last paragraph where you seem to be claiming that my posting opinions which don't match your opinions but which are at least equally valid are causing you to lose sleep. If that is the case then I fear you are in need of medical help.

Comic effect is all well and good, but when taken as part of a post in which you are damming the McCanns for having the audacity to smile at any point in their lives, it really does not fit well.

And you still have not explained why you believe that people suffering anxiety and depression should never, at any point in their lives, smile. Nor have you explained why you cherry-picked those few examples of smiles from the tens of thousands of more serious (even, may I say it depressed) photos of the McCanns which exist?

You posted those photos here for a reason. You have not explained that reason.

Do you actually believe that this couple should never be allowed to smile again? Is that the reason you have shown us the photos or do you have some other reason? 

Please explain your reasoning because it surely cannot be that you think a couple who are trying to maintain as normal a life as possible for their other children should simply never be allowed to smile again? Can it?

 

Excellent post.

[gilet]

Sorry, I'm too busy laughing at you to answer questions at the moment. Maybe later 

Yet more of that "comic effect" used to swerve questions.  It is becoming a very tedious and rather obvious ploy now.

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Whoa princess. Timeout. I never once claimed my friends were pj! You made that mistaken assumption and I already pointed that out once! You made the same mistake on the stm forum, by the way.

When I saw km out shopping with a mate she was happily chatting and laughing. She didn't look devastated, anxious or depressed to me. Maybe pike (stupid boy) would have been able to see the inner pain that a mere mortal like me failed to spot.  >@@(*&)

Patronising comments such as that from you about me being a princess are a form of abuse as is your attempt to bring in comments (which you seem to think were made by me) on other forums.

As for your friends in Portugal who morphed from their positions in Leicester, whether PJ or GNR or simply roadsweepers working for the local council, they don't make you an expert on this case,

Nor for that matter does your claiming to have seen Kate McCann once while out shopping.

What is perfectly clear is that you have not answered any of the questions I have posed to you about your claiming to be able to pronounce on the mental state of a person who you have had no contact with and about your other claims made today.

So instead of posting patronising words, anecdotes about seeing someone out shopping and other inanities for "comic effect" it would be appreciated if you could address the actual issues.

I still do not see how anyone can defend the public letter which Leal sent to Kate McCann. It reeks of jealousy about higher salaries, and makes a laughig stock of the now disgraced ex-detective when she refers to him being a scoundrel (presumably referring to his bedroom exploits).

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Patronising comments such as that from you about me being a princess are a form of abuse as is your attempt to bring in comments (which you seem to think were made by me) on other forums.

As for your friends in Portugal who morphed from their positions in Leicester, whether PJ or GNR or simply roadsweepers working for the local council, they don't make you an expert on this case,

Nor for that matter does your claiming to have seen Kate McCann once while out shopping.

What is perfectly clear is that you have not answered any of the questions I have posed to you about your claiming to be able to pronounce on the mental state of a person who you have had no contact with and about your other claims made today.

So instead of posting patronising words, anecdotes about seeing someone out shopping and other inanities for "comic effect" it would be appreciated if you could address the actual issues.

Gosh. Didn't realise I was on trial. My friends haven't morphed into anything you nitwit. You seem to think they're Portuguese for some unfathomable reason!

[carlymichelle]

Sorry, that's priceless. You're really trying to claim that Pike (stupid boy) did a good job?   

Oh my sides.  I've seen the McCanns out (well, Kate anyway) at a shopping centre in Leicester before. She looked pretty happy to me that day too. Although she was out with just what I assume was a friend and not inconvenienced by childcare of her twins so that may explain it.  I know I failed in my duty but I completely failed to stop her and abuse her. I'm such a disgrace to [ censored word] everywhere. 

dont you love their  you have never me tthe mcanns speech so predictable lol

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dont you love their  you have never me tthe mcanns speech so predictable lol

Is that Australian slang? Or is it meant to represent English?
If you translate it into proper English then people may understand it.

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Gosh. Didn't realise I was on trial. My friends haven't morphed into anything you nitwit. You seem to think they're Portuguese for some unfathomable reason!

Do you get off on being abusive as its such an important part of your posting style.
Morphed or otherwise you still have not answered the questions have you?
Swerving like mad to answer.

And what is this nonsense from you about you being on trial?

Forums are founded on questions, answers opinions and such like.
Just because you can't see that does not mean it isn't so!