According to the AG Final Report - A Neglectful or Intended Homicide ?

[icabodcrane]

From the Public Prosecutor's final report

... " it was not possible to ...  formulate any lucid, sensate and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment  ( Whether dead or alive, whether killed in a neglectful homicide or an intended homicide,  whether the victim of a targeted abduction or an opportunistic abduction )  nor even to produce a consistent prognosis about her destiny and inclusively  -  the most dramatic  -  to establish whether she is still alive, or if she is dead, as seems more likely"

[John]

From the Public Prosecutor's final report

... " it was not possible to ...  formulate any lucid, sensate and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment  ( Whether dead or alive, whether killed in a neglectful homicide or an intended homicide,  whether the victim of a targeted abduction or an opportunistic abduction )  nor even to produce a consistent prognosis about her destiny and inclusively  -  the most dramatic  -  to establish whether she is still alive, or if she is dead, as seems more likely"

Obviously the Attorney General left the option open to cover an accidental death as in manslaughter or an intended death as in murder.

[Rachel Granada]

From the Public Prosecutor's final report

... " it was not possible to ...  formulate any lucid, sensate and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment  ( Whether dead or alive, whether killed in a neglectful homicide or an intended homicide,  whether the victim of a targeted abduction or an opportunistic abduction )  nor even to produce a consistent prognosis about her destiny and inclusively  -  the most dramatic  -  to establish whether she is still alive, or if she is dead, as seems more likely"

So, in plain language - the PJ bungled it and don't have a clue.

[Mr Gray]

From the Public Prosecutor's final report

... " it was not possible to ...  formulate any lucid, sensate and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment  ( Whether dead or alive, whether killed in a neglectful homicide or an intended homicide,  whether the victim of a targeted abduction or an opportunistic abduction )  nor even to produce a consistent prognosis about her destiny and inclusively  -  the most dramatic  -  to establish whether she is still alive, or if she is dead, as seems more likely"

Do you have the original Portuguese as Im not sure about some of thetranslations

[John]

So, in plain language - the PJ bungled it and don't have a clue.

Outsmarted would be more appropriate and that applies irrespective of who was to blame.

[Rachel Granada]

Outsmarted would be more appropriate.

Whatever the lexicon John, they cocked up big-time.  After all, from 4 May the co-ordinator had the parents down as complicit.

[C.Edwards]

Whatever the lexicon John, they cocked up big-time.  After all, from 4 May the co-ordinator had the parents down as complicit.

How do you know they weren't right - as this has not been decided yet?  Maybe they nailed it first time and are, in fact, awesomely good.  It is, without doubt, a possibility.

[Mr Gray]

I think the final report was an act of total humiliation, so along with the facts...such as there is no evidence against the McCanns , the Portuguese had to put in a few little asides to desperately try to save face

[gilet]

Top paragraph.



I think in this particular case the translation is pretty accurate.

[icabodcrane]

I have no idea what your point is in underlining one single part of this paragraph.

But thank you for posting so clearly the FACT that the final summary leaves open all options.

Whether dead or alive,

whether killed in a neglectful homicide

or an intended homicide, 

whether the victim of a targeted abduction

or an opportunistic abduction...

You have exposed perfectly why Amaral's book is so wrong. There simply is no proof of any of these theses and for him to claim definitively in his book that little Madeleine McCann is dead is simply wrong.

The truth is nobody knows what happened to her.

I highlighted the neglectful homicide possibility because this post was originally made in reply to a question posed by ferryman

He accused people who added the word  'neglectful'  of being outright deceitful

[gilet]

I think the final report was an act of total humiliation, so along with the facts...such as there is no evidence against the McCanns , the Portuguese had to put in a few little asides to desperately try to save face

I agree absolutely, there were asides within both the summary PJ report and within the Archival report defending themselves against media criticism.

[DCI]

From the Public Prosecutor's final report

... " it was not possible to ...  formulate any lucid, sensate and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment  ( Whether dead or alive, whether killed in a neglectful homicide or an intended homicide,  whether the victim of a targeted abduction or an opportunistic abduction )  nor even to produce a consistent prognosis about her destiny and inclusively  -  the most dramatic  -  to establish whether she is still alive, or if she is dead, as seems more likely"

Thats not from the Public Prosecutor's final report though. Its the summary, from a Letter to the Attorney General regarding investigation details.

[Mr Gray]

I have no idea what your point is in underlining one single part of this paragraph.

But thank you for posting so clearly the FACT that the final summary leaves open all options.

Whether dead or alive,

whether killed in a neglectful homicide

or an intended homicide, 



whether the victim of a targeted abduction

or an opportunistic abduction...

You have exposed perfectly why Amaral's book is so wrong. There simply is no proof of any of these theses and for him to claim definitively in his book that little Madeleine McCann is dead is simply wrong.

The truth is nobody knows what happened to her.

So the final report does not include amarals conclusion that Maddie died in an accident

[gilet]

I highlighted the neglectful homicide possibility because this post was originally made in reply to a question posed by ferryman

He accused people who added the word  'neglectful'  of being outright deceitful

A shame that that point wasn't made in the OP then.

But nonetheless I thank you again for exposing the fact that the conclusion of the case what that there was absolutely no conclusion as to what had happened to Madeleine McCann and that all those possibilities remain open to this day.

[gilet]

I have no idea what your point is in underlining one single part of this paragraph.

But thank you for posting so clearly the FACT that the final summary leaves open all options.

Whether dead or alive,

whether killed in a neglectful homicide

or an intended homicide, 

whether the victim of a targeted abduction

or an opportunistic abduction...

You have exposed perfectly why Amaral's book is so wrong. There simply is no proof of any of these theses and for him to claim definitively in his book that little Madeleine McCann is dead is simply wrong.

The truth is nobody knows what happened to her.

So the final report does not include amarals conclusion that Maddie died in an accident

You are absolutely correct. That is one alternative not in the Archival report. Isn't that peculiar?