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Offline John

Something which has been mentioned in passing but which I feel should have its own thread.

Did what happened in the Joana Cipriano murder case influence Dr Amaral and his colleagues somewhat in the way they pursued the Madeleine investigation less than three years later?

Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano, commented that "the only difference between the McCanns and us is that we don't have money"

What do you think?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2013, 12:28:33 PM by John »
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Offline Benice

Something which has been mentioned in passing but which I feel should have its own thread.

Did what happened in the Joana Cipriano murder case influence Dr Amaral and his colleagues somewhat in the way they pursued the Madeleine investigation less than three years later?

Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano, commented that "the only difference between the McCanns and us is that we don't have money"

What do you think?

I would agree  that his statement is a fair one.    But would add a further 'difference' in that they were Portuguese and the McCanns were not.


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Something which has been mentioned in passing but which I feel should have its own thread.

Did what happened in the Joana Cipriano murder case influence Dr Amaral and his colleagues somewhat in the way they pursued the Madeleine investigation less than three years later?

Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano, commented that "the only difference between the McCanns and us is that we don't have money"

What do you think?

Influenced in what way John?

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Something which has been mentioned in passing but which I feel should have its own thread.

Did what happened in the Joana Cipriano murder case influence Dr Amaral and his colleagues somewhat in the way they pursued the Madeleine investigation less than three years later?

Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano, commented that "the only difference between the McCanns and us is that we don't have money"

What do you think?

But, nobody knows what happened to Joana, only what Amaral, thinks happened.
Just the same as with Madeleine!

Big difference though, Kate couldn't be got at, like Leonor was.
Is that why Amaral took such a dislike to Kate?
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Offline faithlilly

But, nobody knows what happened to Joana, only what Amaral, thinks happened.
Just the same as with Madeleine!

Big difference though, Kate couldn't be got at, like Leonor was.
Is that why Amaral took such a dislike to Kate?

I always got the feeling Amaral felt pity rather than dislike for Kate.
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Lyall

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But, nobody knows what happened to Joana, only what Amaral, thinks happened.
Just the same as with Madeleine!

Big difference though, Kate couldn't be got at, like Leonor was.
Is that why Amaral took such a dislike to Kate?

Is this a leak of Monday's script? 8)-)))

Offline jassi

Is this a leak of Monday's script? 8)-)))

Even if it is, I can't see the relevance to the ongoing SY attempt to discover what happened to Madeleine and it will have no influence on the trial proceedings in Portugal
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Lyall

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Even if it is, I can't see the relevance to the ongoing SY attempt to discover what happened to Madeleine and it will have no influence on the trial proceedings in Portugal

I was just joking Jassi 8(>((

Sorry 8()-000(

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Offline jassi

I was just joking Jassi 8(>((

Sorry 8()-000(

I know, but sadly, you are probably right about it being the script
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline sadie

Re: Did the Joana Cipriano murder inquiry unduly influence the Madeleine one?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 07:50:57 PM »

But, nobody knows what happened to Joana, only what Amaral, thinks happened.
Just the same as with Madeleine!

Big difference though, Kate couldn't be got at, like Leonor was.
Is that why Amaral took such a dislike to Kate?
Exactly, is that why?  Or was she just another woman to bully and denigrate?

Offline jassi

Re: Did the Joana Cipriano murder inquiry unduly influence the Madeleine one?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 07:59:41 PM »
Exactly, is that why? Or was she just another woman to bully and denigrate?

Remind me, is this the woman who was convicted of murder?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

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Re: Did the Joana Cipriano murder inquiry unduly influence the Madeleine one?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 08:43:35 PM »
Remind me, is this the woman who was convicted of murder?

Yes, that's correct Jassi.

After a "confession" was beaten out of her by the PJ.


Offline jassi

Re: Did the Joana Cipriano murder inquiry unduly influence the Madeleine one?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 08:47:03 PM »
Yes, that's correct Jassi.

After a "confession" was beaten out of her by the PJ.

Presumably that counted for nothing at the trial, hence the conviction.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Did the Joana Cipriano murder inquiry unduly influence the Madeleine one?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2013, 08:47:31 PM »
Yes, that's correct Jassi.

After a "confession" was beaten out of her by the PJ.

This is not a fact...unless you can provide proof of it, bet you cant though....thats why its another groundhog day discussion.....

I dont understand the question in Johns OP