Anyone have any idea what redwoods revelation was??

[Cariad]

I don't know.

The question is do Scotland Yard consider it as read.

It will be very interesting to find that out.

[AnneGuedes]

If there were no checks at all, and some were invented to mitigate responsibility by the parents, how would people feel then? Especially if it had taken 6 and a half years to come to light?

That's what the AG report clearly calls "untruths" about the checks. One of the reason why they requested a re-enactment.

[Luz]

I wonder why no adequate fingerprints were retrieved by forensics, on the patio door,  except for a GNR's print.

The same surprise did the Scientific Police experience. The answer is, they cleaned it or they never used that door.

[AnneGuedes]

This is utter nonsense. A friend of mine has a daughter who only had contact with her father for about 6 hours on one day a week. He used that time to sexually abuse her. It took her a year to be able to tell her Mother.

I'm not suggesting that that means any member of the Tapas 9 were child molesters, I'm just not capable of letting the above comments go by unchallenged.

Children are abused in all kinds on situations that we find difficult to understand, however, when you insist that "it's not possible" you do extreme damage to any child wishing to report the abuse.

Once again, this is a general statement and I am not suggesting for one moment that any of the adults in Madeleine's group we paedophiles or that any of the children were subject to abuse.

I am saying that child abuse happens and that victims need to be listened to with an open mind.

Thank you for sharing that, Cariad. Though it's probably not the case here, this is a reality that must be contemplated. All loving parents will agree.

[Luz]

Pffff

whatever

[AnneGuedes]

The same surprise did the Scientific Police experience. The answer is, they cleaned it or they never used that door.

Why would they clean ? But the idea they never used that door  can't be discarded.

[DCI]

The same surprise did the Scientific Police experience. The answer is, they cleaned it or they never used that door.

Cleaned it, or used it? 

God,  Luz, you get dafter by the minute.

Forensics were crap.
Dogs were crap.
Amaral was crap.

[Redblossom]

Cleaned it, or used it? 

God,  Luz, you get dafter by the minute.

Forensics were crap.
Dogs were crap.
Amaral was crap.

And dcis posts are crap....there you go completeness

[DCI]

And dcis posts are crap....there you go completeness

And Reds had a few 

[Redblossom]

And Reds had a few 

Not as many as you though
 >@@(*&)

Pls dont cry makes me sad

[AnneGuedes]

you can pick up PAYG sims all over the place and put credit on them with untraceable cash) unless there was a relevant warrant handed over.  Otherwise the infringement of privacy is potentially enormous.

You can only put credit through a bank account.
Infringement of privacy is the reason why access to Mr McCann's sms wasn't granted by the judge.

[C.Edwards]

You can only put credit through a bank account.
Infringement of privacy is the reason why access to Mr McCann's sms wasn't granted by the judge.

Not true Anne - you can buy prepaid sims. Or certainly could in 2007 because I bought one from a small shop in Southern Spain back then whilst on holiday and wanting to avoid ruinous roaming charges.  I could have had €10, €25 or €50 I think?  Not sure if they've changed rules/regs since but it was available in Spain then so no reason to believe it wouldn't be possible in Portugal really?  I'm pretty sure my wife used to top up the kids' PAYG sims in the local corner shop with cash too.

Anyhow, I digress. 

It seems we now know what the "revelation" will be. Namely that the window for abduction has moved.  Obviously at some point SY found out that the window of opportunity was ridiculously small and made it hard to see things as they would like.  Therefore what's the easy solution?  Yup, chuck away Tanner's sighting, therefore opening up the evening to the opportunistic abductor from any time after Gerry's check onwards up to Kate's check.

Of course it does also then call into question the several OC staff who claimed the alarm was raised much earlier than 10pm according to their statements. Never mind. Will all be glossed over, I'm sure.

[Mr Gray]

Not true Anne - you can buy prepaid sims. Or certainly could in 2007 because I bought one from a small shop in Southern Spain back then whilst on holiday and wanting to avoid ruinous roaming charges.  I could have had €10, €25 or €50 I think?  Not sure if they've changed rules/regs since but it was available in Spain then so no reason to believe it wouldn't be possible in Portugal really?  I'm pretty sure my wife used to top up the kids' PAYG sims in the local corner shop with cash too.

Anyhow, I digress. 

It seems we now know what the "revelation" will be. Namely that the window for abduction has moved.  Obviously at some point SY found out that the window of opportunity was ridiculously small and made it hard to see things as they would like.  Therefore what's the easy solution?  Yup, chuck away Tanner's sighting, therefore opening up the evening to the opportunistic abductor from any time after Gerry's check onwards up to Kate's check.

Of course it does also then call into question the several OC staff who claimed the alarm was raised much earlier than 10pm according to their statements. Never mind. Will all be glossed over, I'm sure.

 do you think the whole of SY are in on it ..like the tapas...part of the pact of silence

[jassi]

I have every expectation that the entire SY ream will do exactly what is expected of them.

[C.Edwards]

I have every expectation that the entire SY ream will do exactly what is expected of them.

That's a very good way of putting it actually.