Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?

[G-Unit]

The fact that they tried so hard to minimise the distance and maximise the line of sight is what's relevant. The distance was clearly greater and the line of sight less. Honesty is the best policy and trying to excuse what they did may not have been the best strategy.

[Eleanor]

The fact that they tried so hard to minimise the distance and maximise the line of sight is what's relevant. The distance was clearly greater and the line of sight less. Honesty is the best policy and trying to excuse what they did may not have been the best strategy.

And nor was it honest to make it seem any worse than it was.  Like Chaplin's for instance.

[G-Unit]

And nor was it honest to make it seem any worse than it was.  Like Chaplin's for instance.

Rumours abounded, mostly untrue. The rumour about Chaplins seems to have originated simply in a newspaper's comments section. There's a difference between unsubstantiated rumours and misleading statements from two of the main witnesses, surely?

[Benice]

The fact that they tried so hard to minimise the distance and maximise the line of sight is what's relevant. The distance was clearly greater and the line of sight less. Honesty is the best policy and trying to excuse what they did may not have been the best strategy.

Maybe the actual distance was quoted  to counter the many grossly exaggerated distances being claimed at the time?

IMO the amount of extreme critcism aimed at the McCanns for the last 8 years would be justified if the McCanns had (for instance)  left their children wide awake - running round the apartment -  and after throwing them a box of matches to play with - went off and spent the night clubbing.     How sitting less than 60 seconds walk away from your sleeping children and checking on them every 30 minutes has been transformed into the No 1 crime of the century when it comes to children  -  is totally incomprehensible to me.

I note the fact that the thousands of parents who have committed the same apparently horrendous 'crime' as the McCanns did whilst on holiday - i.e. left their children asleep and gone to dinner - is still being studiously ignored.   

It's almost as if sceptics want to believe that the McCanns are the only people in the world to have done this - as even acknowledging that these thousands of other parents exist - (let alone claiming they are all just as guilty as the McCanns for doing the same) - appears to be a problem for some sceptics IMO.    Why is that? 

[Eleanor]

Rumours abounded, mostly untrue. The rumour about Chaplins seems to have originated simply in a newspaper's comments section. There's a difference between unsubstantiated rumours and misleading statements from two of the main witnesses, surely?

You have walked the walk, have you?

[G-Unit]

You have walked the walk, have you?

If you are referring to me walking from the Tapas restaurant to the apartment there's no need. We know the distance.

[Eleanor]

If you are referring to me walking from the Tapas restaurant to the apartment there's no need. We know the distance.

ORLY.

[slartibartfast]

ORLY.

Pegasus has told us...

[G-Unit]

ORLY.

Airport?

[Eleanor]

Pegasus has told us...

It seems to me that it depends on whose side you are on.

[Mr Gray]

If you are referring to me walking from the Tapas restaurant to the apartment there's no need. We know the distance.

is the difference   50....100yds ...of any significance. There are far more statements that are misleading...by those opposed to the mccanns...that you seem to have no problem with...that's clear bias

[stephen25000]

is the difference   50....100yds ...of any significance. There are far more statements that are misleading...by those opposed to the mccanns...that you seem to have no problem with...that's clear bias

Well, the mccanns weren't in the back garden and their attention was elsewhere.

[G-Unit]

is the difference   50....100yds ...of any significance. There are far more statements that are misleading...by those opposed to the mccanns...that you seem to have no problem with...that's clear bias

Cites?

As I already said, rumours abounded, but that's not the point. The people involved are more important and if they 'spun' the facts it raised doubts. That damaged them far more than unsubstantiated rumours by others.

[Mr Gray]

Cites?

As I already said, rumours abounded, but that's not the point. The people involved are more important and if they 'spun' the facts it raised doubts. That damaged them far more than unsubstantiated rumours by others.

only amongst a very tiny group of sceptics on the net. Do you really think the average member of the public is concerned with such things...they are not. It is just a small group ....of which you are one...who want to spend hours looking for things to criticise ....they are of no significance whatsoever

[Miss Taken Identity]

I still haven't heard them say they were WRONG Sadie, and also never discuss it without making excuses.

To be honest, I am not interested in how far away they were, be it whatever many metres - they were out of sight and hearing of three very young, vulnerable children  - that is enough for me

Yes, this is the problem I had and continue to have. Not once have I heard them say  'please do not do what we did and don't leave your children unattended when you go abroad'!The excuses are something else!  I hope they look back and think what the hell was I thinking saying that! But I so doubt it, such is their arrogance.

The distance in the dark, and music playing in the Tapas bar would suggest they could not 'see/hear' their children. Previous nights of the  children crying were not only ignored but dismissed by the parents when challenged by their daughter.

The other point: if they could see /hear the children, as they were so close and were checking every half hour as they claimed, how did they miss the abductor?

PR from the beginning, what are they hiding? the shame of neglecting their children in the eyes of many?