Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?

[pegasus]

Hadn't they booked on a half-board basis?

Yes but they could easily have eaten at the apartment - they could have had takeaway from Tapas every night - or they could have bought food at the supermarket and cooked it in the kitchen just like they did for breakfast. 

[misty]

Yes but they could easily have eaten at the apartment - they could have had takeaway from Tapas every night - or they could have bought food at the supermarket and cooked it in the kitchen just like they did for breakfast.

They weren't aware the Tapas did a takeaway service until nearly the end of the holiday. They were already paying to eat breakfast & lunch in the apartment, so to then buy food from what was probably a poorly-stocked & expensive supermarket to cook would have made the trip both uneconomical & hard work, aside from the social issue. It's easy to say what they should have done in hindsight yet not so easy to understand when no-one else's child met an unknown fate.

[mercury]

They weren't aware the Tapas did a takeaway service until nearly the end of the holiday. They were already paying to eat breakfast & lunch in the apartment, so to then buy food from what was probably a poorly-stocked & expensive supermarket to cook would have made the trip both uneconomical & hard work, aside from the social issue. It's easy to say what they should have done in hindsight yet not so easy to understand when no-one else's child met an unknown fate.

Cite pls for them not being aware of a takeaway service, ta

[mercury]

I had assumed they had intended bringing the children with them for the meal, hence the squeeze.  Strange the tapas restaurant were unable to place another two chairs at the Balu table to accommodate them if the children were to be in the evening crèche.

Perhaps the decision not to place the children in the crèche and dine instead at home ... had something to do with the requirements necessary when placing the children there for a couple of hours. 

Whatever the Balu and Berry child care arrangements as opposed to the listening service the Drs McCann and their friends used ~ it doesn't change the fact that whatever the distance involved from the restaurant to the apartments ~ no-one had the right to invade the McCann apartment, or anyone else's for that matter, and take a child.

This will never  mitigate the mccanns negligent  so called non existent so called "child care arrangements".

[mercury]

But the Tapas restaurant had music and chatting and it's unlikely the 7 diners would have heard her. She ran partway to the restaurant and back to raise the alarm which took less than a minute. It was the correct thing for this honest witness to do IMO, because it ensured the search started immediately.

Tanner was nearer so were all other residents..you wouldnt leave your other kids if you KNEW an abductor was around, would you? Dont be silly

You mght leave them if you were NOT worried about any abductor though

[G-Unit]

There were a number of places in which it was easy to monitor the whole group.

Matthew took a very odd route on his 9:30 check after finding out a child was sick.  He went between block 4 and block 5 and along the rear passage.  This is the long way round and it is nearly completely in the dark.

It also affords a great view of what is now the T7 in the Tapas restaurant, whilst the T7 could not see MO.

He has permission to enter 5A, so that is not an issue.

It is only what happened after that which might be an issue.  I need to stress I have zero evidence that this is what happened.

However, Matthew was in possession of the knowledge that none of the other T9 (sick child dad included) was likely to intervene.

Distance or knowledge?  Which is more important?

Do you have a cite for Matthew's route please Shining? I've looked at his statements and I can't find it.

[Mr Gray]

the truth is that the evidence supports that in the past a baby listening service has proved to be very safe. That's what the mccanns based their decision on. I'm sure they would not do the same thing again although these services are still being advertised.

[slartibartfast]

the truth is that the evidence supports that in the past a baby listening service has proved to be very safe. That's what the mccanns based their decision on. I'm sure they would not do the same thing again although these services are still being advertised.

A reminder that in he past, children of 4 worked in factories. So that must mean it would understandable if someone did it now.

[Mr Gray]

A reminder that in he past, children of 4 worked in factories. So that must mean it would understandable if someone did it now.

You obviously haven't understood my post
There has been a paradigm shift in baby listening since the McCann case

[stephen25000]

You obviously haven't understood my post
There has been a paradigm shift in baby listening since the McCann case

MAJOR ?

i.e. Some of the idiots who behaved like the mccanns have learned the error of their ways ?

Fortunately a very minor percentage of people do what the mccanns did.

[ferryman]

A reminder that in he past, children of 4 worked in factories. So that must mean it would understandable if someone did it now.

What a fatuous and imbecilic (non) "comparison".

Exploitation of child-labour has sod-all to do with regular checks run on children sound asleep in their beds and checked on regularly while the parents dined a handful of yards away.

I recently cited an example in England where a lone mother left her children, barely older than Madeleine, in bed alone to work a night-shift (and obviously not checking on them), where they were both raped by an intruder.

The intruder (thank God) was caught but the mother doesn't appear to have been censured.

She was contemplating how she could best rebuild her children's shattered lives after that horrendous ordeal ...

[pathfinder73]

What do you mean?

My question in all that palava is why she did leave
 her twins alone if she was so sure of an abductor..she says she was so panicked but "left them" without knowing the abductors werent still around

Abductor  - now that's funny just like the real identity of Smithman. The timeline is crucial and all should be revealed because I know SY don't live in fantasy luzland. You can't have two exact times from watches that are so far out from each other. One is a liar and I know who and why!

[slartibartfast]

You obviously haven't understood my post
There has been a paradigm shift in baby listening since the McCann case

No, the shift happened long before the McCann case. Butlins stopped in the nineties.

[pegasus]

Tanner was nearer so were all other residents..you wouldnt leave your other kids if you KNEW an abductor was around, would you? Dont be silly

You mght leave them if you were NOT worried about any abductor though

It was the correct decision by this honest witness to alert the 7 people at tapas. JT was slightly closer but known to be child-sitting an ill child and therefore obviously unavailable to run to tapas.

It's surprising you criticise this brief absence (for a very urgent reason) of less than a minute to run to tapas and back, when for example there had been about 45 minutes absence (for no reason at all) the previous night.

[slartibartfast]

What a fatuous and imbecilic (non) "comparison".

Exploitation of child-labour has sod-all to do with regular checks run on children sound asleep in their beds and checked on regularly while the parents dined a handful of yards away.

Cut the insults.

Comparing 2 examples of what was once consider acceptable treatment of children is not fatuous or imbecilic and just points to an inability to address the comparison with reason.