SY claim the man Tanner saw had collected his child from the night creche ?

[kmc]

It would be good to see if anyone recognises or can find the make of the pj bottoms - it looks like the top is not necessarily part of the same set - and I wonder if the top has been "de-stressed' to give the impression that they are older than they really are.   It would be interesting if one found they were from a range done in the last year or so.....

[Sherlock Holmes]

It would be good to see if anyone recognises or can find the make of the pj bottoms - it looks like the top is not necessarily part of the same set - and I wonder if the top has been "de-stressed' to give the impression that they are older than they really are.   It would be interesting if one found they were from a range done in the last year or so.....

Interesting point, kmc, will get the Baker Street Irregulars to go out for a scout

[AnneGuedes]

Interesting point, kmc, will get the Baker Street Irregulars to go out for a scout

What about sending the Irregulars on the trail of Innocentman ? He's one of the guests, his daughter was in the JellyFish group and there's a detail about him that could help.

[Cariad]

It would be good to see if anyone recognises or can find the make of the pj bottoms - it looks like the top is not necessarily part of the same set - and I wonder if the top has been "de-stressed' to give the impression that they are older than they really are.   It would be interesting if one found they were from a range done in the last year or so.....

Yeah, I thought that too! A brief Google search didn't produce anything, but then again, I'm no Sherlock! 

[faithlilly]

To add another layer to this cornucopia of coincidences, it seems Martiin Smith's sighting was wearing almost identical clothing to Innocentman. This is from his statement to the gardai :

'I would like to state that the statement I made on 26th May 2007 in Portugal is correct. The description of the individual that I saw on 3rd May 2007 carrying a child is as follows. He was average build, 5 foot 10” in height, brown hair cut short, aged 40 years approximately. Wearing beige trousers and darkish top maybe a jacket or blazer. '

Curiouser and curiouser.

[DCI]

I think JT did see the abductor.

It was probably over in minutes.

I just find it strange that with the Night time Creche being East of 5A the Met would say the person JT saw was coming from that Creche.

Something even stranger. Why would a child who had been in the creche, for even a short time, not have been wearing anything on her feet? Surely she would have been playing, and not put straight in a bed!

[xtina]

just what i  said erlier  on another  thread.....

Now OK  within the  click of a finger the 9 15  sighting doesn't fit  ....ye right if a child was lifted from a bed in a  hurry accectable to be  dressed  in  only  pyjamas  ....

but  comeeee onnnnn  not  when  picked  up from  a creche in the  cold of night carried  in that position[not snuggled up to his  body]  wearing no coat ..................or shoes/slippers

[AnneGuedes]

Something even stranger. Why would a child who had been in the creche, for even a short time, not have been wearing anything on her feet? Surely she would have been playing, and not put straight in a bed!

Yes. May be Innocentman was in a hurry and put the slippers in his pocket. I'm sure I read somewhere that the creche provided blankets.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes. May be Innocentman was in a hurry and put the slippers in his pocket. I'm sure I read somewhere that the creche provided blankets.

Given how windy Kate has since told us it was that night, maybe one of these freak gusts of wind happened to blow innocent bundlemans childs slippers off.

[DCI]

Given how windy Kate has since told us it was that night, maybe one of these freak gusts of wind happened to blow innocent bundlemans childs slippers off.

Nice to see you think its so funny.

[AnneGuedes]

Given how windy Kate has since told us it was that night, maybe one of these freak gusts of wind happened to blow innocent bundlemans childs slippers off.

Does DCI Redwood say explicitly that Innocentman's daughter was barefoot ? There are images of carried legs, but do they represent what Ms Tanner saw or what Innocentman carried ?

[icabodcrane]

Does DCI Redwood say explicitly that Innocentman's daughter was barefoot ? There are images of carried legs, but do they represent what Ms Tanner saw or what Innocentman carried ?

Well if innocent man's child was wearing shoes,  then he wasn't bundleman  ...  Jane Tanner was very specific that the child she saw was barefoot

I agree with posters who are doubtful about the apparent suggestion that a child was taken to the creche barefoot

[Sherlock Holmes]

Maybe the child fell asleep at the creche and the shoes were taken off.

[Sherlock Holmes]

To add another layer to this cornucopia of coincidences, it seems Martiin Smith's sighting was wearing almost identical clothing to Innocentman. This is from his statement to the gardai :

'I would like to state that the statement I made on 26th May 2007 in Portugal is correct. The description of the individual that I saw on 3rd May 2007 carrying a child is as follows. He was average build, 5 foot 10” in height, brown hair cut short, aged 40 years approximately. Wearing beige trousers and darkish top maybe a jacket or blazer. '

Curiouser and curiouser.

Very curious, Faithlilly.

Is it possible that they somehow could actually have been the same person ?

[jassi]

Very curious, Faithlilly.

Is it possible that they somehow could actually have been the same person ?

Only if he had stopped off at some late night barber for a trim - one is described as having long hair, the other short hair.