Sky News Madeleine Investigation - 15 Oct 2013

[John]

They will probably find out in the final analysis that the man the Smiths saw was yet another tourist with a 6-year amnesia transporting his child from a crèche. The real abductor was probably miles away by 10pm.

I didn't think much of the Sky News report, same old same old... only the date has changed.

[icabodcrane]

They will probably find out in the final analysis that the man the Smiths saw was yet another tourist with a 6-year amnesia transporting his child from a crèche. The real abductor was probably miles away by 10pm.

I didn't think much of the Sky News report, same old same old... only the date has changed.

I think you might be right John

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we are told that another  'anonymous'  man has been identified as an entirely innocent father carrying his own child

Having dotted those two i's  Scotland Yard can get on with closing this case by pinning it on a dead paedophile  via the  'german connection'

Sorry to sound cynical 

[Mr Gray]

Well if there is a  'simple'  explanation for an abductor going into an apartment,  and an hour later still be walking the streets,  just minutes away from the crime scene,   openly carrying a snatched child ...  I have yet to see it presented

who says it was an hour later

[icabodcrane]

who says it was an hour later

Gerry McCann says the door to the children's bedroom  was open more than he had left it  ...  indicating that someone had been in the apartment sometime between 8.30pm and 9.05pm

Scotland Yard say a significant sighting of a man carrying a child of Madeleine's description was made by an Irish family at 10pm 

How can that time lapse be explained  ?

[Cariad]

Sorry, your trying to defend your nasty attempt at some kind of humour does not wash with me and your disgraceful insinuation that I am not thinking entirely about the missing child disgusts me.

If you choose to believe that this Scotland Yard inquiry is a parody that is your choice. Personally I think it a very foolish choice but you are entitled to it.

The lost little girl will not be found while people remain focused only on the McCanns as suspects. Scotland Yard have investigated them and found them not to be so. The Portuguese investigated them and found that there was no evidence whatsoever that they had committed any crime.

It is only people who for some very peculiar reason choose to disbelieve the words of two separate police investigations who remain fixated on them as suspects.

When you stop pretending that this is a parody and is actually about Madeleine McCann who was taken from her family back in 2007, who was failed miserably by Amaral and his team of so-called detectives as the Sky News programme we are discussing showed clearly this evening (as with the CCTV for example) then and only then might I take your attempts at humour seriously. Till then it is my opinion that you are mocking the child who is at the heart of the case.

You really don't have any idea how funny you are do you gilet?

If you could take five minutes out from writing sanctimonious diatribes accusing people of laughing at the fate of a little girl and explain some of the glaring anomalies, I'd be very grateful.

 

[Mr Gray]

Gerry McCann says the door to the children's bedroom  was open more than he had left it  ...  indicating that someone had been in the apartment sometime between 8.30pm and 9.05pm

Scotland Yard say a significant sighting of a man carrying a child of Madeleine's description was made by an Irish family at 10pm 

How can that time lapse be explained  ?

your  observations are so inaccurate...im sure if you check it will be "may have been in the apartment"

[icabodcrane]

your  observations are so inaccurate...im sure if you check it will be "may have been in the apartment"

Why do  you think  the  children's bedroom door was opened wider than Gerry had left it then  ?   

[Cariad]

it isn't surprising that at this stage there are more questions than answers...its like watching a magician on stage....the result looks impossible ...but when you see how he did it...its simple

This could be true I suppose. I personally think that Smithman can not have been the abductor. There's too many hoops to jump through to reach that conclusion.

As others have said, at some point we'll find he was another holiday maker carrying his child home.

[John]

Can SY really be so naive as to believe that an abductor or abductors would go to such trouble to plan an abduction only to be seen carrying their victim all through the village?

He, she or they weren't to know that the only GNR patrol was in Odiáxere some 20 minutes away...or did they?

Was Odiáxere in fact a diversion?

[Montclair]

Can SY really be so naive as to believe that an abductor or abductors would go to such trouble to plan an abduction only to be seen carrying their victim all through the village?

If it had been an abduction gone wrong and the abductor got lost and couldn't find the get away car, he most likely would have just left the child and made a run for it, instead of walking around town with a child in his arms.

[John]

If it had been an abduction gone wrong and the abductor got lost and couldn't find the get away car, he most likely would have just left the child and made a run for it, instead of walking around town with a child in his arms.

Indeed, the fact that they got clean away without a single trace points to a vehicle being involved.

[sadie]

Good grief, have you heard yourself?

Smuggler's cove? Small boat? Bigger vessel?

It's all a bit James Bond crossed with Enid Blyton.

Why would someone throw so much money at taking a child with all the risk that entails when with that kind of cash to burn they could have bought a child or adopted one.

If it's some kind of paedo ring they must be the most well financed in the world and surely there would be many more of these kinds of abductions.

If it's for a family wanting a child and ignoring the fact that someone with funds for two boats could simply pay for a child, where is that child now? Why has a doctor, dentist, school, neighbour never picked up on a couple one day randomly turning up with a ready made 3 year old?

Albertini - What is it to you that I put forward an idea ?  Why are you so upset and keen to rubbish it?  I made it plain that it is an idea, not fact



Anyone could be forgiven for thinking it definitely is a smugglers cove, and that you have a reason for trying to take the attention away. 

I feel sure that you are not a smuggler or the abductor, but take care, cos in your enthusiasm to try and ridicule the possible use of this perhaps ?smugglers cove, you are sounding a bit like one trying to hide the cove

For instance, was there any need to sneer about the fact that this cove and boats could have been used?  A distinct possibility in the minds of others.

All that I have suggested about that cove and boats is a definite possibility ... it is only a suggestion ... but it fits.

It fits bundleman as seen by the Smiths, and it fits the tides that night.

If a boat had to be summoned from Lagos (just 3-4 miles away), it fits the timing for that too

[John]

An interesting theory Sadie and one I know you are particularly fond of but why bother with such a complicated plan when a car would suffice?

[icabodcrane]

An interesting theory Sadie and one I know you are particularly fond of but why bother with such a complicated plan when a car would suffice?

...  and they were only an hour and a quarter's drive from the Spanish border   

[AnneGuedes]

They will probably find out in the final analysis that the man the Smiths saw was yet another tourist with a 6-year amnesia transporting his child from a crèche. The real abductor was probably miles away by 10pm.

I didn't think much of the Sky News report, same old same old... only the date has changed.

Come on, John, this little girl hadn't swallowed by misfortune the Walska Heart or the Sancy !